the hog Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 Much as I like Moscito and find it a highly aggressive system, there is no doubt it is liable to pre emption. As a matter of interest I am posting the opening bids of a new system that has many of the advantages of Moscito, but tries to take are of the pre emption problem. Your comments are invited. 1C 11-14 balanced, including all 4432 4333 5332OR 14-17 any single or 2 suiterOR 18+ any 1D10-14 4+H, unbalanced, may be canape 1H10-14 4+S unbalanced, may be canape in a minor 1S10-14 4+D unbalanced 1N15-17 2C10-14 6+COr4+4+ Majors, 0-10 depending on vul of course Full relays over all openings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowology Posted November 27, 2004 Report Share Posted November 27, 2004 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Fourrière Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Don't like the "OR 14-17 any single or 2 suiter" part of 1♣. These hands need a somewhat more precise first move (and so do the weak notrumps and the strong hands).Wouldn't like the six-card 2♣ on grounds of frequency if there weren't a second hypothesis. Would prefer something like 1♣ 11-14 balanced or 17+1♦ 10-14 unbalanced with 4+ hearts1♥ 10-14 unbalanced with 4+ spades1♠ 10-14 unbalanced with 4+ diamonds1N 15-16, no void, no second five-card suit (and perhaps no six-card suit as well)2♣ 10-14 with 6 clubs or weak with 4+ spades and 4+ hearts2♦ 14-16 with diamonds (6, 5/5 with clubs or 5440 with clubs) or weak with 6 hearts or 5 spades and a 5-card minor2♥ 14-16 with hearts (6, 5/5m or 5=0=4=4) or weak with 6 spades2♠ 14-16 with spades (6, 5/5m or 0=5=4=4) or weak with 5 hearts and 5 clubs2N 14-16 with both majors (5/5 or 5440 - even 5m -) or weak with 6 clubs3♣ 14-16 with 6 clubs or weak with 5 hearts and 5 diamonds After 1N 2♣, 2♦ is balanced and relays back, and the other bids show a shortness, which admittedly wrongsides 3N on occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbleighton Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Ron - 1) Hiding 11-14 5M332s in the 1C bid is going to be a loser, IMO. Are you doing this to accomodate the relays? 2) While 1C will not be as inviting to interference as a 15+ strong club, it seems to me that it will be more vulnerable to actual instances of interference than a pure strong club. What are your schemes for handling 1C-2H and 1C-P-(your negative response)-2H, for example? 3) I suggest a name - "Polish Moscito" :lol: Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 Other option Peter is to put all 5332s 11-14 in 1N opening as Moscito does now against intervention:x = t/o2N /3y = gf2y = nf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 In 1 word? YUK! ;) Against:1. I'm still not convinced that it's a good idea to open 1NT with 5(M)332 hands. Your own successful preemptive possibilities are not efficient anymore I'm afraid.2. Seems like you have to open 1♥ with 5432 - 2 - 32 - AKQJT2 since the 2♣ opening probably only contains the singlesuited ♣ hands. Wonderfull if partner supports with 876 in ♠s and a void ♣.3. I don't like the 37 way 1♣ opening since these are also quite vulnerable to preemption. Perhaps if you'd give the response scheme, I might become convinced :lol: . Pro:1. I like the idea of opening weak 44+M hands, and with the 2♣ opening you mix the natural opening with the weak possibility. Only sacrifice is point 2 from above.2. Seems like the relayschemes after 1♦ and 1♥ openings will be quite efficient. Also the singlesuited relayscheme of the 2♣ opening can now start from 2♠ instead of 2NT. Remark: What do you open with 15-17 and a 3-suiter? There's no opening for that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 "Remark: What do you open with 15-17 and a 3-suiter? There's no opening for that" Yes there is - open 1D/H Interestingly this system was played succesfully in Istanbul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 "Remark: What do you open with 15-17 and a 3-suiter? There's no opening for that" Yes there is - open 1D/H Interestingly this system was played succesfully in Istanbul. Success of a pair playing a system is not always a merit of the system,we can conclude that 2/1 is either great or horrible depending on who play the system and the same for the rest of the systems.What you really need is a chemistry between the players and the system for every pair there's one system that will suit them better to maximize their results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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