Not a preemptive raise?

[Bbradley62]

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[georgi]

Currently it's 4♥ - Free jump raise -- 3+ ♥; 11- HCP; 11-12 total points ( 11/13 from unpassed hand)

 

But it worth adjusting for the 3♥ - Free jump raise -- 4+ ♥; 8- HCP; 7+ total points

[Quantumcat]

Currently it's 4♥ - Free jump raise -- 3+ ♥; 11- HCP; 11-12 total points ( 11/13 from unpassed hand)

 

But it worth adjusting for the 3♥ - Free jump raise -- 4+ ♥; 8- HCP; 7+ total points

Is GIB a beginner being taught to add his points to partner's and bid game if they reach 25? With 11-12 total points shouldn't he start with a cue raise?

[Bbradley62]

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Currently it's 4♥ - Free jump raise -- 3+ ♥; 11- HCP; 11-12 total points ( 11/13 from unpassed hand)

 

But it worth adjusting for the 3♥ - Free jump raise -- 4+ ♥; 8- HCP; 7+ total points

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, but... if you make this adjustment, would GIB jump to 4♥ with the North hand? I would want 5+H, but that might be too restrictive.

[Quantumcat]

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I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, but... if you make this adjustment, would GIB jump to 4♥ with the North hand? I would want 5+H, but that might be too restrictive.

In the best seat, 4+ HCP, four hearts and a singleton should be enough for 4♥ (not vul, with an unpassed opponent?). In worst seat, if 5332 probably would want a couple of values (two passed opponents, vul). But in between basically every hand with five hearts not good enough for a cue-raise would bid 4♥. If you are changing GIB, consult with an expert, but I'm sure they'll say something at least a little bit similar to this.

[georgi]

1M-4M will be changed for the next update.

 

Basically, if there is none-jump overcall ( including X as well ), 4M will be preemptive.

If there is preemptive overcall, bidding 3M without jump will be something like 7-10, 4M 11-12.

 

So the displayed hand according to this new way, will definitely bid 4M ( 4♥ here ).

[Bbradley62]

Thank you.