lycier Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 这是一个极为常见而普通的问题:1M---2M,2M都有那些含义? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
150655941 Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 7-9点 3张支持,或者6点4张支持 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 这是一个极为常见而普通的问题:1M---2M,2M都有那些含义? 2M=6-10hcp,3张支持,建设性加叫。难道6hcp在有的牌面情况是否就可以应叫2M呢?我们看一下这副牌例:♠:756 ♥:A564 ♦:Q86 ♣:987 叫牌进程是:1♠-----2♠3x------3♠p 美国等世界高手们讨论,Kit Woolysey总结认为:很多情况下,3♠定约难以mk,而2♠定约是可以完成的。那么,这说明了什么道理呢?给了我们什么启示呢?当你应叫2♠后,应该承诺可以承受同伴的进局试探。而楼上150655941所说的6p,4张支持,也是正确的,只是我们很多的时候,跳加叫3♠,破坏空间,不给敌方三阶交流信息的空间。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterismon Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 还是要和是否用了伯根或哈代等加叫系统,一般的理解是6~10P ,3张支持 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqwbc Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 我谈谈我的感受:1)2♠既然是建设性建议,至少在下面两个条件至少包含其一,1)2♠.如果边花没有太多帮助,那么将牌上必有你期待的价值;2)如果将牌没有期待的价值, 那么边花上没有你太多你失望的价值。 我所倡导的叫牌理念是:牌值和牌型不能有双缺陷。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqwbc Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 2M=6-10hcp,3张支持,建设性加叫。难道6hcp在有的牌面情况是否就可以应叫2M呢?我们看一下这副牌例:♠:756 ♥:A564 ♦:Q86 ♣:987 叫牌进程是:1♠-----2♠3x------3♠p我的看法是:3433牌型 是不能做2S加叫的。按原来的SP(支持点)理论。7sp才能加叫2S的。所以这手牌只能1N后再叫2S处理。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted September 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 我谈谈我的感受:1)2♠既然是建设性建议,至少在下面两个条件至少包含其一,1)2♠.如果边花没有太多帮助,那么将牌上必有你期待的价值;2)如果将牌没有期待的价值, 那么边花上没有你太多你失望的价值。 我所倡导的叫牌理念是:牌值和牌型不能有双缺陷。 good ideas,excellent explanations,I agree with your opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 之前就看了楼主的贴,不敢回答 ,今天学习了,谢谢楼主,谢谢cqwbc :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9Ayy Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 1M开叫,应叫人5-6点3张支持可以从1nt开始,然后再叫2M,和弱示选的牌一样。7-9p3张支持,直接加叫2M。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 又学了一招——谢谢! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arter Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 关键的点,2M加叫就是要能接受开叫方的进局试探。这样理解就对了。谢谢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunlongg Posted October 20, 2012 Report Share Posted October 20, 2012 1M-2M,涉及到是否使用建设性加叫。本人不赞成使用建设性加叫在我的叫牌卡上, 1M-2M 5-8pts,3张支持,极少情况4张。这几乎是在警告pd,进局试探要有足够的心理准备。这种加叫方式,优点很多,缺点也不少,尤其难于处理5-9-HCP 4432双张支持的牌。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenxuemin Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 1M-2M 主要区别 1M-1nt-2x-2M,3-4张支持自己考虑,如果我是KX支持,我也 1M-2M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikuo Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 牌值和牌型不能有双缺陷,顶一下 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 牌值和牌型不能有双缺陷,顶一下 说得好!赞一下:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xuefeier Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 牌值和牌型不能有双缺陷,谢谢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wangzhi123 Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 1M,2M!5-9p!开叫人六张将牌加叫到3M!16+采用改良的kokish进局试探!3c,3d!单缺2s问帮张所在!2nt s有帮张3c,3d,分别是c和d帮张!3h弱牌!2nt4张s的邀叫!开叫人可以在3M以下再次反邀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluetooth Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 谢谢分析。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyp163 Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 1M-2M:分为二种用法:第一种:2M表示建设性加叫7-10 ;5-7的加叫通过先1N然后再叫2M完成。第二种:2M表示5-9,称为低限加叫,9-12称为限制性加叫。哈代加叫里使用的是第二种,伯根加叫有一点混杂,但基本是按第二种方式的,第一种的劣势在书中有很明确的分析,用了较大的篇幅(2页)来阐明的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caiyonglin Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 我使用建设性加叫,通常没有四张支持(除非4-3-3-3形)。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 这个我认为俱乐部必须尽快统一一下,后续用纳吉进局试探约定叫的话,应该使用第一种:2M表示建设性加叫7-10 ;5-7的加叫通过先1N然后再叫2M完成。如果用第2种,则3M太不安全,同时18p的时候,自己是否跳进局也变成了猜测。大家怎么看? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laidong1 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 Posted 2012-September-14, 09:20我谈谈我的感受:1)2♠既然是建设性建议,至少在下面两个条件至少包含其一,1)2♠.如果边花没有太多帮助,那么将牌上必有你期待的价值;2)如果将牌没有期待的价值, 那么边花上没有你太多你失望的价值。 我所倡导的叫牌理念是:牌值和牌型不能有双缺陷。 学习!感谢!牛! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmc0353 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 有必要温习一下哈代的教导:1、当同伴开叫高花时,应叫人如有配合,一定要尽可能快地加叫。(上册132页);2、应叫人加叫同伴的高花到二阶表示持低限应叫牌力(5+9-),且对同伴的花色有三到四张支持。(上册133-134页)另外我注意到,在哈代描述1NT逼叫牌例里,除差的限制性加叫外,没有配合同伴高花3张的牌例。也就是说,对同伴高花开叫应叫逼叫性1NT,如果第二声不澄清为差的限制性加叫,则表明了在同伴开叫高花上只能是0-2张。我理解哈代的意思:一方面即使停在3阶有宕的风险,但也带来阻击干扰敌方的效果;另一方面在只有叫一声的机会下,把握住了让同伴知道有配合的时机。反观主张5-6P先1NT,唯一的好处是在敌方不插叫的情况下可以停在2阶,但是事实上插叫的概率很大,一般没有第二声叫牌的机会了! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikuo Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 桥牌值得学的地方太多,均型和非均型的判断,不光是有牌点的简单加叫,但要彻底理解还是有难度的吧。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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