ArtK78 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I know the stated conditions will be a little unfamiliar for most of you, but I am hoping that you can adapt. Swiss teams. IMPs converted to VPs. 8-board matches. Round 5 of 6. Playing for a chance to win the event. All non-vul. Partner opens a 10-12 1NT and you hold: KJTxKT9xxxKJT You have two initial choices: (1) Sign off in 2♥; or (2) Invite game in a major by bidding "non-forcing" Stayman 2♣ (shows less than game forcing values - 2♦ would be forcing to game Stayman). If you bid 2♣ and partner bids 2♦, you will continue with 2♥ showing 5 hearts and invitational values. If partner bids 2 of a major over 2♣, you will have to decide whether (a) to invite or (b) to bid game. At this point, I am not asking for what you would do over any other action or continuations. Your move. [These are your only choices in your system. If you don't like it, that is fine, but these are the conditions of contest.] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 (1) Sign off in 2♥ Does pard ever raise this with four trumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 (2). If partner responds 2H I will raise to game, if partner responds 2S I will invite with 3S. I hope we are playing something along the lines of 1NT-2C; 2D-2H; 2NT as a maximum with no fit (passing with min) just in case we have an invite based on distribution rather than HCP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Does pard ever raise this with four trumps?No, partner will not raise with 4 trump. Your sign-off is based on (presumably) a 5 card heart suit with less than invitational strength. It could be much less. Assume that a sign off in 2♥ is a drop dead bid. By the way, for what it is worth, assume that, with 6 hearts and less than invitational values, responder would bid 3♥ preemptive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Definitely invite. In fact I might just force to game, but luckily I don't have to decide that yet per the conditions ;) Despite partner's NT opening, this looks like a hand that I want to declare, the chance for a favorable lead around to me is high. If partner bid 2♠ over my 2♣, can I still bid hearts to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I would sign off I think. Find it hard to do these problems opposite unfamiliar NT ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Definitely invite. In fact I might just force to game, but luckily I don't have to decide that yet per the conditions ;) Despite partner's NT opening, this looks like a hand that I want to declare, the chance for a favorable lead around to me is high. If partner bid 2♠ over my 2♣, can I still bid hearts to play?A 3♥ bid over 2♠ would show 5 hearts and invitational values, and deny 4 spades. It would not be forcing. A 4♥ bid over 2♠ is undiscussed. As we are in a part-score or game auction (given the inital 2♣ call), and not a game or slam auction (which would have begun with 2♦), I would presume it to be natural. Partner might assume that it offers a choice of games, but I cannot guarantee that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 What would you do opposite a 14-16 notrump with the same hand distribution but failing the KJ of clubs, for instance? This question was intended for us folks unfamiliar with 10-12 to decide whether it is an invite. Or doesn't that bromide work when the actual range is comic? Seems like it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I'll try (2): 2♥ over opener's 2♦ response; raise either major to three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semeai Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 I think I'll bid stayman and bid 2H over 2D, 3H over 2H, and pass over 2S. I'm not sure though, due to inexperience with 10-12 NT. Am I supposed to compare this to subtracting 5 points opposite a strong notrump? Say J109x K109xx x Q108. Or is it slightly better than that situation, because our points are more balanced between the two hands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 What would you do opposite a 14-16 notrump with the same hand distribution but failing the KJ of clubs, for instance? This question was intended for us folks unfamiliar with 10-12 to decide whether it is an invite. Or doesn't that bromide work when the actual range is comic? Seems like it should.Am I supposed to compare this to subtracting 5 points opposite a strong notrump? Say J109x K109xx x Q108. Or is it slightly better than that situation, because our points are more balanced between the two hands?Does this mean we are buds, again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semeai Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 Does this mean we are buds, again? Sure. :) I'd suggest this not depend on whether we agree on some bridge point, though. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted September 11, 2012 Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 Certainly invite even with this aceless hand.Would like a rebid to show D-short to help partner decide 4M or 3M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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