gwnn Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 AK9xx-xxxAKJxx 2D*-2H3H!? 2D was multi (w/2 in a major or 20-21 bal), MP, all red. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted September 5, 2012 Report Share Posted September 5, 2012 If partner is crazy they have 7 hearts for their weak 2 and are doing something crazy. If partner is normal 20-21 balanced w/ 5-6 hearts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 If partner is normal 20-21 balanced w/ 5-6 hearts.Wouldn't call partner with 5-6 hearts normal, with six he should have either opened 1♥ or 2♣ and rebid hearts. With five hearts he should bid 2NT and await puppet/muppet stayman. Could be he forgot how to play multis, the people at my club playing multis don;t actually know how to play them, they bid 2♠ in response to 2♦ when they have five or more spades. Maybe this person was making even bigger mistakes than this, and thought 2♥ showed hearts, and he had a six card spade suit and three hearts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 This auction does not exist, even playing a strong inclusion in your Multi. This is not a person with whom I want to play. I would bid 7H and then find a new partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 This auction does not exist, even playing a strong inclusion in your Multi. This is not a person with whom I want to play. I would bid 7H and then find a new partner.Nystrom and Upmark bid 2♦ pass 2♠ pass 3♠ to show a strong hand with diamonds plus spades, KQJx AK AKQJxx x (.pdf"]page 7). So I would say this bid probably exists as well, and for people with whom I would want to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 If they're bad, probably they have a weak two and just don't understand how to bid after a nulti. If they're not bad, I would assume they initially missorted their hand and probably found an extra small heart. They should not do this with 20-21 and expect me to figure that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenrexford Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/imagecache/670xX/photos/noltemug.jpgIf they're bad, probably they have a weak two and just don't understand how to bid after a nulti. Or, maybe the are playing Nolte, which is entirely consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 Nystrom and Upmark bid 2♦ pass 2♠ pass 3♠ to show a strong hand with diamonds plus spades, KQJx AK AKQJxx x (page 7). So I would say this bid probably exists as well, and for people with whom I would want to play. No. Have you read the op. This strong option is NOT part of their system, as the only strong option they play is a strong balanced hand. In that system the bid does not exist and the player is either operating or has forgotten the system or is a fool. In all three cases I would not want that person as my partner. If I were playing the Nystrom Upmark version, then my bid WOULD have some meaning, wouldn't it? However according to the poster I am NOT playing that version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 I promise he doesn't have 20-21 bal or 22+ with hearts. I would never bid like this but, well, my partner did, would you pass or bid 4H (or something else)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 my guess is he's got both majors. 65 or something. but obv you need a psychologist to properly delve into the mind of a mad man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 If I had to guess, it would be that he forgot he was playing a multi and is now being ethical presuming you bid 2♥ in response to what he actually meant by 2♦. This however shouldn't influence your decision, and I think you can do what you like as this bid doesn't exist in your multi unless you've specifically agreed something for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 He hadxAQT98xxxQT9x I raised to 4♥ and took 10 tricks on a spade lead (diamond discard, club to queen, lose two hearts while keeping control and being glad that clubs were 2-2). My RHO now knows that it's a good idea to show his 6-card solid minor. I promise my 2♥ was completely in tempo, but anyway if we wanted to cheat we would find better contracts than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 I may open 3♥ on this if fav, but after having opened 2♦ bidding again is insane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 I may open 3♥ on this if fav, but after having opened 2♦ bidding again is insane.With all the intermediates in the long suits, I'd probably treat this as a 9 or 10 count and open 1♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 3H? Get above their Spades coming in easy.Oops, this hand you have spades and strong. Bid 4H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted September 16, 2012 Report Share Posted September 16, 2012 I may open 3♥ on this if fav, but after having opened 2♦ bidding again is insane. I'd consider 3♥ even at equal, but would surely pass 2♥ if I had opened a multi. Preempt as high as you dare, then shut up. The perpetrator really needs to learn paradox bids (Chris Ryall's webite is a good source.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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