Poky Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 MP. All vul. 1♠ - Dbl - Pa - 2♥3♣ - 3♥ - 3♠ - ??? ♠xx♥1098xx♦A10xx♣xx What you bid?What you bid playing IMPs instead of MPs?What you bid if RHO bids 4♣ instead of 3♠ (on MPs)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Since this is an advanced thread, I will share with you a trick. Here, over 3♣ if partner was interested in game, he would bid 3♦. Yes, I know you guys will be telling me about how 3♦ is a monster one suiter to good to risk a 2♦ overcall. To this I say Bull. This is a lonely cue-bid (think of is as last train for game try). There is no room left to invite game other than by bidding 3♦. 3♥ here is strongly competitive (since you could be broke), but even so, you really have nothing to shout about opposite a competitive 3♥ bid. So, I pass at MP, I pass at imps, and if RHO bid 4♣ I pass too. Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chamaco Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 I passed too.All signs (at any form of scoring) suggest passing:- pard has made a competitive bid and we are minimum in hcp- if we want to account for shape, LOTT says we probably should not bid at 4 level (9 trumps, opps probably have 9 trumps, maybe 10 but still borderline)- in any case if we bid 4H we may just be pushing them into a making game; the 3 and 4 level belong to opps in this case, I won't give them the fielder's choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Pass, in all forms of scoring! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Pass also ! The only thing i did not promise is my 5th ♥ but I'm definitely too weak to bid on a competitive bid of my partner ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 dbl black doubleton is a big minus. Otherwise I would bid 4H. Case could be made for dbl here. You have one ace and pd raised you to 3H, knowing you could have nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 What would: 1s=x=p=3h show versus 1s=x=p=2s versus 1s=x=p=2h? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 ♦A and 5th ♥ are the good extras, I voted for 4♥. Doubleton in ♠ is a drawback, doubleton in ♣ is not. Partner should have something in ♣ for the Double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 What would: 1s=x=p=3h show versus 1s=x=p=2s versus 1s=x=p=2h? 1S=X=p=3H: invitational; 1S=X=P=2S, game forcing (opening value). 1S=x=P=2H, could be nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Partner should have some extras to take a call at the 3 level after my 1 level bid showed nothing. I'm about as middle of the road for my 1♥ call as I can imagine. The presumed side diamond fit is nice, but I hate my black xx's, although clubs rate to be well placed for us. This is really a strange auction. RHO passes over the double and then takes a free call over pard's 3♥? It looks like we are making 3♥, so I want to double this in the worst kind of way, but I'll win the event on another board (OK, if its one of these 12 board ACBL pedal-to-the-metal things, I'll double). Makes no difference if I get a 4♣ on my right; frankly, I'm less inclined to act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tysen2k Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 MP. All vul. 1♠ - Dbl - Pa - 2♥3♣ - 3♥ - 3♠ - ??? One thing is bothering me a little about this. What kind of a hand could RHO have to pass the first time and then compete in spades after partner competes at the 3-level? [Edit]: Looks like pclayton had the same thought and posted at the same time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 pass, pass and pass, partner hasn´t invited at all, even if he did pass is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Partner should have some extras to take a call at the 3 level after my 1 level bid showed nothing. I'm about as middle of the road for my 1♥ call as I can imagine. The presumed side diamond fit is nice, but I hate my black xx's, although clubs rate to be well placed for us. This is really a strange auction. RHO passes over the double and then takes a free call over pard's 3♥? It looks like we are making 3♥, so I want to double this in the worst kind of way, but I'll win the event on another board (OK, if its one of these 12 board ACBL pedal-to-the-metal things, I'll double). Makes no difference if I get a 4♣ on my right; frankly, I'm less inclined to act. RHo could even have 4card spade but passed, without high card or good shape. Pd rates to have spade doubleton too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Fourrière Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 4♥. Either 3♠ or 4♥ rates to make on a total trick basis, and the opponents may bid one more. I'm surprised by the number of passers.I would pass 4♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 22, 2004 Report Share Posted November 22, 2004 Pass. this is the sort of auction you see not infrequently against weak opponents. Pass followed by 3S is appalling bidding; what was he hoping - that you get to play 1S doubled? I don't have a great hand, and afaiac partner is merely raising the ante with 3H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 MP. All vul. 1♠ - Dbl - Pa - 2♥3♣ - 3♥ - 3♠ - ??? ♠xx♥1098xx♦A10xx♣xx What you bid?What you bid playing IMPs instead of MPs?What you bid if RHO bids 4♣ instead of 3♠ (on MPs)? i think the hand belongs to opener and partner... i think my rho has 3 or 4 spades and is about the same strength as me.. give him 3 spades else he might jump if weak with 4 it doesn't much matter, my partner can't have a monster else he'd have bid something other than 3♥.. my thinking is, opener isn't through.. nothing i bid will matter, short of 5 or 6♥, and there's no way i'm doing that... i'll pass and hope they do too mike777 wrote:"What would: 1s=x=p=3h show versus 1s=x=p=2s versus 1s=x=p=2h?" i'd play 3h as 9-11 with 5+ heartsi'd play 2s as game force somewhere, guess i'll find out where in a seci'd play 2h as "you told me to bid, i've bid" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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