BillAngus Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I have noted that the robots make non-bids as follows... p-p-p-ROBOT ... In 4th seat GIB opens 2!H or 2!S with 6-card rotten suit and 6 soft points plus maybe a stiff for dist. value. The expected value of partner's holding is (40-6)/3 = 11 points No serious bridge player would open this hand as the hand most probably belongs to the ops. Ops have expected value 23 points vs. your pair's expected value 17 points. Strategically, there is no one to pre-empt as all prior have passed, so the bid is not a pre-empt, it is just wrong. I can maybe see opening a hand at the 2-level in 4th seat with 10 or 11 HCP or something -- because of possibility for part-score but not this kind of bid with 6 HCP (or 7 with dist). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 It makes more sense for 2s in fourth seat to be invitational to game with a good suit, but lots of people have never discussed how they play 2s in fourth seat and invitational to game would never have occurred to them, so the programmers of GIB probably left this convention out so as not to confuse those people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yu18772 Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 It makes more sense for 2s in fourth seat to be invitational to game with a good suit, but lots of people have never discussed how they play 2s in fourth seat and invitational to game would never have occurred to them, so the programmers of GIB probably left this convention out so as not to confuse those people. I thought most people dont play preempts at 4th seat, but rather something more constructive jump openings. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gifYu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Like the programmers are even capable of thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Like the programmers are even capable of thinking.Comments like this, which you make frequently, are rude and unhelpful, to say the least... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillAngus Posted September 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2012 Comments like this, which you make frequently, are rude and unhelpful, to say the least... AGREED BRADLEY: there are places where GIB needs tuning up... but I've done some programming and frankly I wouldn't know how to do nearly as well. I just posted to pass along an instance of need for change to my betters :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Have they responded to any of your reasonable request? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted September 4, 2012 Report Share Posted September 4, 2012 Have they responded to any of your reasonable request?Yes, several of the suggestions I have made over the past 2+ years have been implemented. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Openings in 4th seat about preempts will be addressed. Likely in the next version, changing the explanations as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Welcome back, Georgi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted September 15, 2012 Report Share Posted September 15, 2012 Thank you :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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