Jump to content

In a team game of BBO experts


jdeegan

Playing with a pick up partner - a BBO expert  

41 members have voted

  1. 1. UR bid



Recommended Posts

:P IMP teams. Pick up partner is a self-described BBO expert. Your side is vul vs non-vul. You are third seat. Playing BBO 2/1.

You hold:

AQ1084

K1098

K10

K10

The bidding goes 1 by pard, pass by RHO, you call 1. LHO overcalls 2, partner passes as does RHO. You have not agreed to play support doubles.

 

UR bid.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

:P IMP teams. Pick up partner is a self-described BBO expert. Your side is vul vs non-vul. You are third seat. Playing BBO 2/1.

You hold:

AQ1084

K1098

K10

K10

The bidding goes 1 by pard, pass by RHO, you call 1. LHO overcalls 2, partner passes as does RHO.

 

UR bid.

X T/O which doesn't seem to appear, yet pass with a 15 count opposite an opening bid does.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I voted 2 but I have doubts. If I was confident in partner's judgement about leaving or pulling a double, I would choose that, but with random BBO expert I am not. Of course, LHO (also a BBO expert) may be bidding on a trashy 5 card suit, I have seen this a lot. Then again he might have his bid. Double feels like a dice roll under the circumstances so I lean toward 2. I am pretty confident we can get +600 or 620 and while that may not be the best possible score, it can't be terrible.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2H is NF but constructive imo. If you are going to bid hearts you have to bid 3H. But this looks like a completely ordinary double to me.

 

Also, this is a t/o double situation.

 

Unless you play Reverse Flannery.

 

I double. If partner sits, we are getting rich. If he pulls to 2 I know what to do. Not sure about other continuations, but nothing presents a problem that that makes anything than a double superior.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'm going to bid 3 in the circumstances described. I'm afraid anything else I do will be misconstrued. By doing so, I recognize that we might not get to the optimum spot, but in an area with no agreements and playing with some random...My primary concern is to make clear calls, rather than calls that require interpretation/judgment.
  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would double and bid 3NT if partner bids anything besides 2. Partner should realize that we have 5 spades on this auction and can correct 3NT to 4, otherwise we would have just bid 3NT directly or would have started with 1 with 4-4 in the majors.

 

I'm not going to assume that partner can't make rational bidding decisions and operate with 3NT directly or 3/3.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

I'm not going to assume that partner can't make rational bidding decisions and operate with 3NT directly or 3/3.

 

I've played with people who, though they are good players (BBO experts), would define that double as penalty. I would personally play it as cooperative, with 3 trump and no clear direction the most common hand type. Even if partner passes with a good 3 card holding on a 2-3-3-5, thinking we've made a cooperative double, I don't want to be defending 2 at this vulerability when we are surely a favorite for 3N unless partner actually has a penalty double, which he is unlikely to have given our own holding.

 

Double is perfectly fine in a practiced partnership. Here, I would think that it has the potential for a negative swing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Double is obvious if this is a bridge question. If it is about how to handle self proclaimed BBO experts, then I don't know what's best. I guess that if this is not the first hand then you have some idea of how good or bad partner is.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3NT is the practical bid in a pickup partnership.

 

It could be important to play from this side. In fact I rather play 3NT from this side than 4 from partner's side. There must be a reason I got all these intermediates.

 

Rainer Herrmann

 

Agree, this hand plays better from our side.

 

------- Qxx

 

AJ98xx------ xx

 

------- KT

 

Rather have LHO lead a diamond than RHO lead a diamond.

No reason to believe 4 makes more often than 3NT.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I would x though I give serious consideration to 3H. The problem with x is if partner bids 3H over the double this contract is wrong sided. However i think this is a glass half emty approach. Did i read correctly that one poster passed?
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

double is indeed a very nice looking bid here but is it possibly short

sighted??? rhm makes a very important point that it may be very

important to right side this contract (though i do not like the

3n bid because while practical it is not flexible enough bypassing

possible 4h and 4s contracts).

 

P passed over 2d so there is a much more likely chance opener

is a balanced min than one with a longgggggg club suit and just

barely squeaking out a 1c bid. Taking that into consideration

i feel

 

3h

 

is the best bid overall because it gives us 2 ways

to win outright---we right side hearts and if p can bid 3n our dia

Kx will be a pleasant surprise. If p can bid spades we will break

even. The tox will keep hearts in play but will be less likely to get us

to 3n when we cannot play a major since opener will be more likely to

sit for the x than bid 3n. Over 3h they will have no choice but to try

3n and we will like that.

 

 

A case can be made that 3h should promise 5h (else use tox). We would not

do this if there was no competition and i see little reason to assume that just

because there was a 2c bid we now have to show 5 vs 4. There is no chance

this can go wrong since opener will merely bid 3s with a doubleton (assuming

they cannot bid 3n) and wont raise hearts unless they have 4. The conversion

to 3s with 23 in the majors (or less) keeps the bidding alive and allows us to

further describe our hand (we will then bid 3n). If opener has 3 card spade support

or 4 card heart support they cue bid or bid game.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

double is indeed a very nice looking bid here but is it possibly short

sighted??? rhm makes a very important point that it may be very

important to right side this contract (though i do not like the

3n bid because while practical it is not flexible enough bypassing

possible 4h and 4s contracts).

 

P passed over 2d so there is a much more likely chance opener

is a balanced min than one with a longgggggg club suit and just

barely squeaking out a 1c bid. Taking that into consideration

i feel

 

 

If partner cannot bid spades after the double, he must be 2344. I am not overly worried about diamond stoppers in that case.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

:P The whole hand:[hv=pc=n&s=s96haq6dj73caj982&w=skj753hj7d96cq754&n=saqt84hkt98dktckt&e=s2h5432daq8542c63&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1cp1s2dppdppp]399|300[/hv]

Strange hand in some ways. East's 2 call is dubious to say the least. Without it you make 3NT with proper play even after a diamond lead. Somehow our BBO expert opponents at the other table managed to go down after no 2 bid. So, 2 doubled turned out to be a good score. I was South and didn't know whether the damn double was cooperative or takeout or what. Decided to take the sure plus.

 

I think it is a bit risky to double for takeout (much less cooperative) with the North hand in that vulnerability when you have an almost certain game. You have to hold 2 doubled to four tricks to get 800. Even when pard has KJxx behind the bidder, declarer's six-bagger and one side trick is good enough for 500.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think it is a bit risky to double for takeout (much less cooperative) with the North hand in that vulnerability when you have an almost certain game. You have to hold 2 doubled to four tricks to get 800. Even when pard has KJxx behind the bidder, declarer's six-bagger and one side trick is good enough for 500.

 

Partner won't have KJxx because you have the king. If partner has a real penalty pass then combined with your K10 you might well hold them to 2 diamond tricks.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Partner won't have KJxx because you have the king. If partner has a real penalty pass then combined with your K10 you might well hold them to 2 diamond tricks.

:P Sorry to have confused you by going from the specific to the general case in the same paragraph. Not good writing at all. As you can see, on the actual hand declarer wins five diamond tricks - we have to lead trumps for him lest he ruff two clubs in the dummy.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...