A funny incident

[nikos59]

When I play bridge I dislike "mute" partners -meaning those who

don't even type the customary "glp" or "wdp". I also prefer

good partners.

 

Tonight a guy came as a partner at my table, I accepted him,

then I discovered he was "mute". On the second or third board,

opponents reach 2S after 1S-2S and my hero leads his singleton

trump. I don't like this because I have A1096. After the deal is

over I discover that he had 9532 at clubs which he could safely

lead. I don't want to play with a speechless pard who leads

singleton trump, so I say "Bye partner" and I remove him from

the table. Another comes.

 

The ejected ex-partner privately asks why. I tell him, 1) not

saying wdp, 2) leading singleton trump when other lead was available.

 

He says, "Stop the excuses. Why don't you say properly that you

don't want to play with ------s!" (name of a people).

 

But I had luck -the new partner was also from the same country!

 

So I used a five-letter word.

 

nikos

[pclayton]

Nikos, I laughed at the incident, but I must take exception at something:

 

I don't like it when I get removed from a table by the person I'm playing with or anyone else for that matter. If I am abusive (which I am never), thats different. I've had that done to me once or twice and it really rankles me.

 

If I start a table and get random players thats fine. If I don't like the level of play by my partner or my opponents and I don't like the game, then I leave myself. I don't boot people because I don't agree with their plays. Apparently their lack of talk made the situation worse for you, but it still doesn't justify it.

 

I think as a policy the "Remove Player" button should only be used in situations of abuse.

[inquiry]

Nick

 

As stated, your actions are a violation of the rules of the site. Booting a player is a rare situation involving abusive behavior.

 

To boot someone for being mute might be acceptable if you but on table profile, no mute players please or the like. Booting a player because they are not up to your standards is also not acceptible. Seems unfair... but there you go.. read the rules of the sight. What i do is say thanks, and leave to start a new table.. i might even invite the other two players... that is i boot myself.. that is allowed.

 

Ben

[nikos59]

Hi Ben,

 

If it is against the rules of the site, I apologize.

Now that I checked, the only relevant

rule I found (in the Help section) is:

 

<<In general, one only removes a player who appears frozen (check with the player to see if he can respond to a chat message), or who is being rude or is harassing another player (such members should be reported to a BBO administrator).>>

 

This seems to me an orientation rather than a hard rule,

is there another? Or is the above rule a hard rule?

 

Now, let me expand a bit on the general subject of

"not removing partners you don't like"

When I open a restricted table, I can accept or reject anyone.

Now you say to me that this privilege of rejecting partners

which is available when I know nothing about the partner,

is unavailable when I get to know him! Isn't this illogical?

 

Your suggested policy (boot yourself) has merit, but I

think it is a disservice to the other two people who

enjoy their game to have their game broken.

Also, when you boot yourself you lose scores

etc. although this is a minor annoyance.

 

There is another way: to explicitly state

in the table description that "weak players are

removed" or sth similar, which I have seen somewhere but

I find it unnecessarily offending and arrogant.

Mind you, the other day I played a team match

where the organizer (a strong player) had

prior notice that players are removed at will.

I was playing against him. Well, he

changed three partners in 10 boards! At

board 2 my partner butchered a game. At board

4 I had a new partner without being alerted

or asked!

 

Nikos

 

PS As an afterthought: I, for one, would be much more

offended if all at a sudden my dear partner vanished

as well as the other two players, muttering excuses

about the wife shouting or dinner being ready, and then

discovering them playing at another table. I would find it

much more useful to be told: Look mate, this table

is too strong for you.

[inquiry]

As far as I can tell, it is alright to ask the fellow to leave, if done politely....

 

1) My regular partenr has arrived, do you mind leaving??? this is ok

 

2) I;m sorry, our bidding styles don't match, do you mind standing up? is ok

 

3) my god, where did you get your "exper raiting? yhou are a total novice...leave at once.?? Is not ok

 

4) This talbe is for intermediates or better, you FALL WELL BELOW this, be gone... Is not ok.

 

5) I'm starting a new table.. partner will join me? (and then send a private message to RHO)... ?? Questionable, perhpas. But I see this a fair amount of the time.. Techniically it does not violate the rules

[ack_hh]

Now that I checked, the only relevant

rule I found (in the Help section) is:

 

<<In general, one only removes a player who appears frozen (check with the player to see if he can respond to a chat message), or who is being rude or is harassing another player (such members should be reported to a BBO administrator).>>

 

This seems to me an orientation rather than a hard rule,

is there another? Or is the above rule a hard rule?

From "The rules of this site":

 

The following are considered serious offenses. Repeat offenders will be expelled from BBO:

[..]

Table hosts booting players because they do not like their bidding or play

[..]

 

The rules of the site can be found under "Explore Bridge" - "Bridge Library" - "English" - "The rules of this site"