BBF vs. JEC in general

[mgoetze]

Hi guys,

 

so I was out of town the last two weeks and found it pretty stressful to try (and fail) to get a team. I'm going to be in China for the next three and a half weeks and don't intend to put up with it again, so unless someone steps up to coordinate the next few matches within the next 24 hours, I will cancel all the matches up to and including September 1st. Also, considering the general lack of interest, we should consider some changes after that. Either we could aim for a biweekly schedule instead of a weekly schedule, or I could start inviting people I know who do not post on the forums if forum posters don't express interest in time. Please discuss.

 

I haven't heard from anyone wanting to play this Saturday so I'll assume that can be cancelled too.

[rduran1216]

sunday was 100 times better than saturday for most of the people trying to play, i think thats the problem, but idk what can be done about it.

[mgoetze]

I wasn't involved in that decision, and I don't know who these "most of the people" are. Maybe if they could all speak up and tell me that they would love to play on Sundays but can almost never play on Saturdays I could see whether there's anything I can do for the long term.

[gnasher]

I will admit to a loss of enthusiasm. It's a bit disspiriting to keep losing heavily to a team which I'd normally hope to beat, and I seem to play much worse online than I do in face-to-face bridge.

 

Also, I find that the matches are only really enjoyable if we're playing against JEC and his partner, but obviously we have to take our share playing against the other pair. If the opportunities are shared evenly, that means that for each match we get against good opposition we have to have another match against less good players.

 

I will probably play some more, but not as often as previously.

[MickyB]

I'm happy playing vs the non-JEC pair, unfortunately Simon doesn't really have internet access atm. Hopefully this will change at somepoint but there's no timeframe really. Saturdays > Sundays for me.

[gszes]

i have the willingness and availability to take over coordination of the team

events--If I do do it would be with the intention of trying to get posters to

possibly play with other posters. The purpose of these events IMO is to

be a strong learning experience. In case you havent noticed the forums

are read by a HUGE number of people. I assume they are reading to try

and learn. The more experience posters have the better they will contribute.

 

I personally have many non poster friends that can fill in if needed to make up

a team but I would prefer to do that as a last resort. There is little reason why

various posters cannot play well with others (unless they have diametrically

opposed views which happens sometimes).

 

If you want me to take over u can email info to me at georgeszeszycki@comcast.net

of leave me email on bbo gszeszycki (i only use gszes here).

 

 

 

[mgoetze]

If I do do it would be with the intention of trying to get posters to possibly play with other posters.

Seems to be a lost cause. :(

[gszes]

ok i admit i dont see a whole kit and kaboodle of people lining up to play this weekend and its fri

night. Even so, at least let me know whom you might contact in case of cancellation and i will

belatedly try now and put togehter a team of friends (UNLESS WE GET A SUDDEN SURGE OF

VOLUNTEERS HINT HINT))))) to play tomorrow afternoon. Let me know here if you wish.

[gszes]

ok i admit i dont see a whole kit and kaboodle of people lining up to play this weekend and its fri

night. Even so, at least let me know whom you might contact in case of cancellation and i will

belatedly try now and put togehter a team of friends (UNLESS WE GET A SUDDEN SURGE OF

VOLUNTEERS HINT HINT))))) to play tomorrow afternoon. Let me know here if you wish.

chasetb saie he wanted to play tomorrow and he didnt mind playing with anyone so he and i can be one

partnership are there any other volunteers out there tiem is running short

[jillybean]

chasetb saie he wanted to play tomorrow and he didnt mind playing with anyone so he and i can be one

partnership are there any other volunteers out there tiem is running short

My partner (kristen33) and I can play, and I'll not be so timid this time :)

[gszes]

ok now all we need is chasetb to promise to show up and we have a foursome we also need

mgoetze to notice this in time so he does not needlessly cancel the event everyone cross

your fingers.:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) i am going to show up around 30 min

early and if chasetb has not commited i will drag a friend into the fray (unless mgoetze wants

to play):)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[jillybean]

FANtastIC :)

 

2pm edt, 11am pdt right?

[Mbodell]

FWIW I'm still interested (I've played in 2 of the matches, and tried a 3rd but JEC was having computer problems). However scheduling on weekends is hard sometimes (Saturday is usually better than Sunday for me, and weekends are definitely better than week days, but still it isn't uncommon that I could only make 1 weekend a month).

[Vampyr]

What is this all about? Who is JEC?

[Mbodell]

What is this all about? Who is JEC?

 

JEC == Jimmy Cayne, a famous top bridge playing client who sponsors top teams in the US Nationals and also practices daily, most of the year, with pro teams on BBO. His BBO matches get lots of spectators and various folks play him as opponents (other pro teams, junior teams warming up for championships, other expert teams - and on Satruday's somewhat semi-regularly for the past many months, teams of folks from BBO Forums).

[mgoetze]

JEC is playing against Wales on September 15th and 29th, so we are only playing them twice this month (8th and 22nd). Then in October we can either resume weekly play or continue the biweekly rythm. I would like to invite further comments on this matter.

[TimG]

JEC is playing against Wales on September 15th and 29th, so we are only playing them twice this month (8th and 22nd). Then in October we can either resume weekly play or continue the biweekly rythm. I would like to invite further comments on this matter.

I'm late to the party and not always able to reserve Saturday afternoon BBO time well in advance. But, I am going to try. And, I am surprised that there isn't a line of people waiting to play. The opportunity to play a match against good (great) players should be something that we're all looking for.

[jillybean]

My partner & I would definitely be up for another game. Availability is always uncertain but we will look for dates that work.

[broze]

My partner and I missed out on playing last time because jec had internet troubles but please put us down on the 'keen' list!

[phil_20686]

What are the scheduled times atm? I am finished my thesis now, and am available pretty much all the time, although I live in the UK, so day times/evenings there are better than silly o clock in the morning :P

 

I can probably provide a partner, possibly even from the regular posters, depending who is available.

 

Also, I really struggle with time zones. I am currently living in GMT+1, (since its daylight saving time here), and I never understand when daylight saving is on or off in these discussions about time zones.

 

So pacific time is 8 hours behind GMT atm? and so seven hours behind UK time in the summer? Or does the US do daylight saving time aswell?

[JLOGIC]

your post was made at 5:30 AM pacific, 8:30 eastern

[hrothgar]

I'm late to the party and not always able to reserve Saturday afternoon BBO time well in advance. But, I am going to try. And, I am surprised that there isn't a line of people waiting to play. The opportunity to play a match against good (great) players should be something that we're all looking for.

 

I agree in theory.

In practice, I am sadly out of practice and do not relish the though of humiliating myself on an international stage...

[gnasher]

What are the scheduled times atm? I am finished my thesis now, and am available pretty much all the time, although I live in the UK, so day times/evenings there are better than silly o clock in the morning :P

 

I can probably provide a partner, possibly even from the regular posters, depending who is available.

 

Also, I really struggle with time zones. I am currently living in GMT+1, (since its daylight saving time here), and I never understand when daylight saving is on or off in these discussions about time zones.

 

So pacific time is 8 hours behind GMT atm? and so seven hours behind UK time in the summer? Or does the US do daylight saving time aswell?

The start-times are usually 14:00 Eastern, which will including daylight-saving until 4th November. Usually 14:00 Eastern is 19:00 UK time, but the US clock-change occurs a week later than ours, so there will be one week when it's 18:00 UK time.

 

This site may help:

 

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html

[mgoetze]

I generally try to include time zones when I give times.

 

Daylight Savings Time

PDT = Pacific Dayligt Time (USA West) = UTC-7

EDT = Eastern Daylight Time (USA East) = UTC-4

BST = British Summer Time (Great Britain) = UTC+1

CEST = Central European Summer Time (France, Germany, Italy, etc.) = UTC+2

 

EvilRegular Time

PST: Pacific Standard Time (USA West) = UTC-8

EST: Eastern Standard Time (USA East) = UTC-5

UTC: Universal Time Coordinated (Great Britain) = UTC+0

CET: Central European Time (France, Germany, Italy, etc.) = UTC+1

 

Note that GMT is deprecated. It is the same as UTC give or take a few leap seconds.

 

As Gnasher said the Cayne matches are at 14:00 EDT/EST depending on US daylight savings times.

[Vampyr]

Also, I really struggle with time zones. I am currently living in GMT+1, (since its daylight saving time here), and I never understand when daylight saving is on or off in these discussions about time zones.

 

So pacific time is 8 hours behind GMT atm? and so seven hours behind UK time in the summer? Or does the US do daylight saving time aswell?

 

Those who deal with people from other countries should always state times in terms of GMT. It really annoys me when people say a time in some random time zone and others are supposed to do research to find out what it means.