vodkagirl Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hi guys, In a uncontested auction, the bidding went 1♠-1♥-2♥-4N-5♠-Pass. Basically, I realized my 4N had been optimistic and 6♥ is not making as we have not enough keycards. I cannot even get to 5♥. I decide to pass figuring this limits the damage, ie, 5♠ loses fewer tricks than 6♥. If opponents had doubled then I am retreating to 5N which partner would realize was not a King Ask. Partner and I had no agreement in this situation. What do you suggest as a way of parachuting out of RKB when you know a small slam is not making? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'd suggest thinking before bidding 4N. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 In most cases there will be no way to get out. Just bid the slam, hope one of the missing keycards is the king of trumps and that it is onside. Or that the opponents can't figure out how to cash their two aces in time. Just take your lesson that you weren't supposed to bid RKB in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I do not understand the auction as written, as one partner has made an insufficient bid. But I do agree with wyman. If 5S will be too high, don't bid 4N. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodkagirl Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Auction not rendered correctly it went: 1♠-2♥-3♥-4N-5♠-P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BunnyGo Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 In that case I'd bid 4 of a minor (or 3NT if some sort of slam try) instead of 4N when I cannot happily bid slam opposite a 5S response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 There is no way out after bidding RKCB. You MUST be able to withstand any normal response to 4NT before bidding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodkagirl Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'd suggest thinking before bidding 4N. You are a known troll. Please do not post in any of my threads again. Many thanks. Also sent this message to you via your name so you do not miss it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 You are a known troll. Please do not post in any of my threads again. Many thanks. Besides the fact that they aren't "your" threads, I'll just say "no" to your suggestion to avoid your threads, and I'll suggest that you learn to take criticism before posting on these forums. Else you will have a frustrating (and short) tenure here! I'm intrigued about the troll part, though -- especially since I'm known as a troll by someone with only 6 posts here! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Oh, and maybe we can move this thread to the n00b forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'd suggest thinking before bidding 4N.You are a known troll. Please do not post in any of my threads again. Many thanks. Also sent this message to you via your name so you do not miss it.Did the others make the same point more delicately? Or should we all refrain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodkagirl Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Did the others make the same point more delicately? Or should we all refrain? I have no problem with criticism. What Wyman wrote was akin to telling a debtor was asks for advice not to have gone into debt in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodkagirl Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Oh, and maybe we can move this thread to the n00b forum. You are a known troll. Please do not post in any thread I create. I will contact BBO if you post in this thead again. You are cyberstalking me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I have no problem with criticism. What Wyman wrote was akin to telling a debtor was asks for advice not to have gone into debt in the first place. Yes, since you're not yet in "debt" in future auctions, I'm telling you that next time, you shouldn't get into debt in the first place. That's the only advice that makes sense here. Doing otherwise is just bad bridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 You are a known troll. Please do not post in any thread I create. I will contact BBO if you post in this thead again. You are cyberstalking me. Looking forward to the results of this! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Vodkagirl: You posted looking for an answer. You got it. From several sources. You have no reason to criticize the answers or the posters who answered. Wyman is due an apology. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 What Wyman wrote was akin to telling a debtor was asks for advice not to have gone into debt in the first place. This is only a valid analogy if you're asking in the middle of the hand. Wyman's advice is perfectly sound, if terse - if you can't handle the expected answers to your query (either 4NT or the original post), then maybe you should not be asking that particular question in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodkagirl Posted July 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I have sent the following report to BBO: Dear Sirs/Madam, Wyman gave me a rude answer. I asked him to kindly stop posting in my thread. He said he would post as he wished and threatened I would have a short tenure on this forum. He then derided me by saying my post should be moved to the no0b forum. I said he was cyberstalking and I would contact you and he mocked this. Please resolve this situation. Yours, vodkagirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 New record time for progression from normal guy --> troll --> cyberstalker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Can I at least get a cyberstalker undertitle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 New record time for progression from normal guy --> troll --> cyberstalker? Inspired by the olympics, ldo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 bbf drama is my favorite drama 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 lol this must be a wind-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'd suggest thinking before bidding 4N.Indeed. Jerry Helms, in Helms to Hello: "It is better to think and then bid than to bid and then think". OTOH: Unknown player engaging in a post-mortem with her partner after a club game: "I didn't come here to think, I came here to play bridge!" :lol: :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I'm locking this thread as it has morphed from constructive to flaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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