Phil Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Playing against very good opponents you arrive in 6♣: Q62AKQ4A89752 AJT3VoidQJ42AJT83 Your line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellSpyder Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 This may require an "early decision", but presumably I can wait until they have made an opening lead.....? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 ♦A-♥A-♥K-♥Q-♣A? I must be missing something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 ♦A-♥A-♥K-♥Q-♣A? I must be missing something. You can finesse in either suit. Also, what do you plan on doing when clubs are 3-1? Meh nevermind I guess you can 8 to the 9 and then hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yin970902 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 I think 6♣ auction is aggressive. If West leads ♦,the 6♣ is put in a critical situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 1: I would like the lead 2: I would like the auction so that I can judge whether the lead is called for in context of the auction, or whether it has additional possible meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 By inteference, W led a ♦ spot right? It's the only lead that will cause declarer the (implied) titular angst :D. Anyway, as others have noted, can we have more information please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Playing against very good opponents you arrive in 6♣: Q62AKQ4A89752 AJT3VoidQJ42AJT83 Your line? Crap - ♥7 lead sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Auction was 1N 2C 2H 3C 3D 4D 6C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 16, 2012 Report Share Posted July 16, 2012 Can't I pospone it by ruffing and playing ♣A and another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrmidon73 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Hey guys, I'm new to the forum so please critique my reasoning: 1)For the trump suit it seems like playing the ace of clubs only wins when the clubs are 2-2 or there is a stiff honor. The probability of that is something like 40% + 0.5*50% = 65%. So, this line loses something like 20% of the time right off the bat (lose a club, and at least one of the finesses, assuming you can't pitch a diamond on the 13th spade). Even if you can only have one club loser, you still need to take a finesse, so it seems like ruffing first round is something like a 40% make. Trying to hook a double finesse in clubs seems better. 2) As for guessing the Kd or Ks, is it normal for good players to not lead away from Kxxx against slams? The lead is definitely aggressive, and obviously there are a lot of other variables that are part of the opening lead as well. 3) For the line I think pitching the spades on the hearts and taking the club hook is probably best. We still have an entry to the board via diamond to take another club finesse, and are still free to take the diamond finesse. The only reason I chose spades is that I think its less likely that an opponent leads away from a king here, so because LHO didn't lead a pointed suit, I think his chances of holding each king goes up. So, the diamond finesse seems slightly +EV. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I am going with double hook in clubs (twice if first loses), and play to hook spades twice, ruffing fourth round of spades in dummy. Plan 3♥, 4♣, 3♠, 1♠ ruff, and the ♦A Plan may need some adjustment if and only if East has four clubs. So let me know if he does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I am going with double hook in clubs (twice if first loses), and play to hook spades twice, ruffing fourth round of spades in dummy. Plan 3♥, 4♣, 3♠, 1♠ ruff, and the ♦AHave you counted your entries to dummy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 The line that requires less is spade finese, with diamonds you have to ruff 2 in dummy and bad trump splits make it harder. Playing clubs from hand is not ideal, but it is not that worse. Ruff in hand and play 2 rounds of clubs, if clubs split both fineses are equal, and might pick diamonds over spades just because I can test stiff spade king before diamonds. Otherwise just go for spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 The line that requires less is spade finese, with diamonds you have to ruff 2 in dummy and bad trump splits make it harder. Playing clubs from hand is not ideal, but it is not that worse.It is. You succeed in trumps about 65% of the time.Finessing in trumps succeeds in more than 70% with some additional chances when KQxx is onside.In comparison a stiff spade king offside is a 1.2% chance. The entry situation to dummy requires careful attention, but is manageable. Rely on the spade finesse. A small club to the ten at trick 2 looks best to me, so that a second finesse later allows you to remain in dummy. If LHO shows out on the first club, continue with the ♣J Rainer Herrmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Meh - not sure I had the ♣7 in dummy. Alan Graves is on your left. I took the passive lead as indication both pointed kings were off, even though playing spades is marginally better without the inference. Other table got a diamond lead and decided to pop and pitch diamonds on hearts right away and didn't hook trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 I took the passive lead as indication both pointed kings were off This confuses me, are you saying that he would be more likely to lead a diamond if he had the ♦K, but less likely to lead a spade if he had the ♠K? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 This confuses me, are you saying that he would be more likely to lead a diamond if he had the ♦K, but less likely to lead a spade if he had the ♠K? No I'm saying because he didn't lead a diamond or a spade that he had both. Except he had neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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