why doesnt GIB bid its suit?

[onoway]

Question is; why would North bid 3♥ and then why would it X rather than bid its 6 card ♠ suit? What was it expecting from me, what was I supposed to do over the X, how am I supposed to know it has ♠ and even if I DID, what possible advantage would there be to having a ♠ contract played from south?

 

The 4♥ bid totally confused me and I just said "a pox on all your houses" but of course that doesn't work well. B-)

 

[hv=pc=n&s=sj32h64dqjt4cq532&w=s976ha7da62cakj87&n=saqt854hkq8d973c6&e=skhjt9532dk85ct94&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1n2c2d3cp3h4hppdppp]399|300|I forgot that GIBS play Capp so the 3♣ bid was a DONT raise. No doubt this contributed to the problem, but the question remains, why not bid the ♠suit [/hv]

[Bbradley62]

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[onoway]

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Thanks .... some...although I checked the bids at the time...hindsight helps. I knew right away I had blown the response in any number of ways when I raised ♣.I play DONT and hadn't remembered GIBS play Capp) but no undos. I still dont understand why GIB would bid 3♥ instead of bidding its 6 card ♠suit tho. We neither of us have claimed to have♦covered for NT. (Also this is looking like a more than 40 point deck from the bidding..my fault!..that might be too much to expect the GIBS to think about though.)

[laststandb]

3♠ is probably a sign off, you've shown enough points to force to game if you are looking at the hand from the GIB perspective, so the cue bid is forcing showing a good hand. When East raised to four, GIB was looking for a nice juicy penalty double opposite a good hand (after all, the bot has 3 tricks).