advanced Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 No you don't. It is not yours. If you don't like it, don't play on it and play on another site that does have ratings.And our homework for this week is to read: Mein Kampf? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 And our homework for this week is to read: Mein Kampf? What a moron you are. An entrepreneur sets up a free web site and you want to tell him how he can run it? Sheesh! By the way the forum for suggestions is suggestions for the software, not for a whole change in philosophy. Play on other sites with ratings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 What a moron you are. An entrepreneur sets up a free web site and you want to tell him how he can run it? Sheesh! By the way the forum for suggestions is suggestions for the software, not for a whole change in philosophy. Play on other sites with ratings! Given that said entrepreneur has an entire subforum dedicated to "suggestions for the software" i'd say yes, he is very interested in people suggesting ways to improve how he runs it. trolls gonna troll i guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 The EBU (English Bridge Union) has introduced it's NGS (National Grading Scheme) and this is having a similarly good effect on bridge in England. Peter Hall I am glad to hear it, and would love to know the nature of your information and your source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Of course we're willing to accept suggestions. But they should be polite, constructive requests. Rants, whining, demands, and derogatory comments are not likely to be received well, and will probably weaken your case. And just because we don't implement your suggestion it doesn't mean we're not listening. BBO is a tiny company. There are lots of things we'd like to do, but only so much can get done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 barmar, you seriously saw the posts above yours and didn't axe them? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 barmar, you seriously saw the posts above yours and didn't axe them?Americans consider Nazi references a normal mode of communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Antrax, so you are now the arbiter of what appears in forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I'm sure you can make the inference to figure that out on your own.Americans consider Nazi references a normal mode of communication.Huh, I was blissfully unaware of that - I thought it also fell under PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintaro Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 I am glad to hear it, and would love to know the nature of your information and your source. THe EBU Stephanie :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advanced Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 What a moron you are. An entrepreneur sets up a free web site and you want to tell him how he can run it? Sheesh! By the way the forum for suggestions is suggestions for the software, not for a whole change in philosophy. Play on other sites with ratings!Your words give me an indication where you are from and what your IQ is. You are the type that will/would have said:It is my slave, I do with him whatever I wantORIt is my ball, you can only play with it if you choose me in your teamORIt is my house, I can burn it if I feel like It is sad for you you live in a country without freedom of speech and opinion. The country of book burners. The others feel that the forum is here for a reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwar0123 Posted July 22, 2012 Report Share Posted July 22, 2012 Antrax, so you are now the arbiter of what appears in forums?The irony here is so thick I can't imagine anyone could accomplish it accidentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 THe EBU Stephanie :rolleyes: Where, the website? I should have thought it was too early to judge what effects the NGS has had on bridge in England, I would appreciate if you who are in the know could point me towards the relevant data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Your words give me an indication where you are from and what your IQ is. You are the type that will/would have said:It is my slave, I do with him whatever I wantORIt is my ball, you can only play with it if you choose me in your teamORIt is my house, I can burn it if I feel like It is sad for you you live in a country without freedom of speech and opinion. The country of book burners. The others feel that the forum is here for a reason. You have again proved that you are a moron. "The country of book burners." What an idiotic comment.Yes, Fred DOES have the right to do what he wants with his site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 "Data? We don't need no steenking data!" :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 You don't have the right to make suggestions about Fred's website? Crikey that's rough!No you don't. It is not yours. If you don't like it, don't play on it and play on another site that does have ratings.Yes, Fred does have the right to do what he wants with his site. One of the things he has chosen to do is to give us the right to put forward suggestions.There is obviously no obligation to implement these, although I understand some do get implemented. Noone here has the right to restrict or remove this. If someone wants to suggest a rating system for the 13742nd time then they can, until such time as Fred (or someone operating under Fred's authority) says otherwise. I very much doubt that Fred would prefer users to play on another site rather than make the suggestion here (and thus hear the arguments as to why a rating system might not be such a good idea after all). A suggestion is not the same as telling someone what to do. If I write a letter to The Times suggesting that America drop nukes on Syria then it is a suggestion unlikely to be implemented, but otherwise harmless. If I command Obama to send the nukes in, perhaps by using a new mind-control technology or by kidnapping his daughter... well, that is quite a different matter. Finally, @hog, it would be nice if you could argue your case without resorting to name calling and personal attacks. I find that to be generally inappropriate for these forums (call that a suggestion for the Forum Etiquette document if you like). I do understand that it is easy to slip when feeling that the person you are arguing with is being unreasonable. FWiiW I also find the reference to Mein Kampf unreasonable and join Antrax in being surprised that this set of posts was not removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Fred has continually said that he does not want a rating system. To have x numbers of people spamming these forums and often as a first post is ridiculous. References to "Mein Kampf" and book burning are not intelligent to say the least. Further CYeti, based on some of the comments you have made in the past i don't think you have the right to take the moral ground on anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo2110 Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 About the Nazi references... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law By the way I think that a rating system will be good for BBO. I confess that make an intensive use of BBOSkill when the service was operative. Of course it could be better but with good results you roughly have better ranking. I do not think that people will start cheating with their rankings. You want to play better, it is a nonsense have a super-expert ranking and the playing force of a beginner. In any case a few people toying with their ranking do not affect the usability of the service. I, as a beginner+ or intermediate-, have, in the current situation probably more luck in entering in a higher level table than with the ranking system. But the motivational factor compensates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
advanced Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 Fred has continually said that he does not want a rating system. To have x numbers of people spamming these forums and often as a first post is ridiculous. References to "Mein Kampf" and book burning are not intelligent to say the least. Further CYeti, based on some of the comments you have made in the past i don't think you have the right to take the moral ground on anything!Ah, so you only have a right to write in the forum if you posted 8579 times (and have nothing better to do with your time than tell others what to do or what not to do). You are speaking for Fred, I assume he gave you authority to do this, can you also make payments in his name?I don't give a crap what you think, your childish opinion is of no importance. Many people want a rating system, and you, little boy, don't want them to post this. Poor poor kid. So young and already beyond repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I see "option to rate" becoming "no game if it's not rated" PDQ I realise that your intention was to make an argument against rating systems, but this looks like an argument for them, or at least a piece of evidence that ratings are extremely popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I realise that your intention was to make an argument against rating systems, but this looks like an argument for them, or at least a piece of evidence that ratings are extremely popular. Right now there are no rating systems in place. As a result, people complain about the lack of rating systems.Have no fear. If there were rating systems in effect, droves of people would be complaining about these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted July 23, 2012 Report Share Posted July 23, 2012 I'm sorry, but I feel it's necessary to lock this thread. I'm not trying to censor criticism of BBO, but this has turned into almost nothing but a flame war and name calling. And even the polite posts are just repeating the same religious arguments about ratings we've had dozens of times before, so no new light has been shed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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