y66 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 That last hand is unreal, gave me this deja vu. [hv=pc=n&w=sa53hkdaj952cq862&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=4s5h5s6h6s7hdppp]133|200[/hv] Your lead ?Since I don't have a small heart this time, I think I'll try the DA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted July 18, 2012 Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 In the ACBL main team events the sponsors play usually at the same table, if they both take part in a particular quarter of the match.Is there some kind of unwitten rule, respectively a gentlemen's agreement.... or it will be really decided so (or not) by the captains in every single match.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2012 Spingold results: http://www.acbl.org/nabc/brackets/2012/02/spingold/ Rosters: http://www.acbl.org/nabc/rosters/2012/02/SPINGOLD/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Spingold is going really fine so far, and tomorrow we are (hopefully) going to have Lynch for lunch :) We survived an unusual disaster against Amoils today (won by 4): [hv=pc=n&s=s754h6dkq65cj6432&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1hp2n(GF%20fit)p3c(Min)p3d(Ask)]133|200[/hv] Double for ♦-lead or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Spingold is going really fine so far, and tomorrow we are (hopefully) going to have Lynch for lunch :) We survived an unusual disaster against Amoils today (won by 4): [hv=pc=n&s=s754h6dkq65cj6432&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1hp2n(GF%20fit)p3c(Min)p3d(Ask)]133|200[/hv] Double for ♦-lead or not? Wow how exciting, good luck and well done. no not sure if diam lead is best...dont want to give away my short trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 MFA I got you for sick odds against lynch. TBH I am not sure who the fav is in your match, i thought it was roughly pick em. GL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Spingold results: http://www.acbl.org/nabc/brackets/2012/02/spingold/ Spingold is going really fine so far, and tomorrow we are (hopefully) going to have Lynch for lunch :) We survived an unusual disaster against Amoils today (won by 4):I am confused. The link says that Amoils have advanced to play against Lynch and Denmark are out. Is there a story here or just a mistake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I am confused. The link says that Amoils have advanced to play against Lynch and Denmark are out. Is there a story here or just a mistake? misread? no.......perhaps misprint or imps or wrong... http://www.acbl.org/nabc/brackets/2012/02/spingold/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 misread?In the Round of 16 I see 5. Lynch against 12. Amoils, to play against the winner of Cayle vs Onstott. Do you see something different when you click the link? Edit: quoted in full before the previous post was ninja-edited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 In the Round of 16 I see 5. Lynch against 12. Amoils, to play against the winner of Cayle vs Onstott. Do you see something different when you click the link? again not quoted in full all I can say is misprint or appeal not shown. I can say bbo member expects to play(denmark team) in any event good point.....I see other misprint...minor but still they give one team a tiny error in regards to org seed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Double for ♦-lead or not? I'd pass. Doubling is quite risky, and the upside isn't that great. RHO appears to have extra values, so if they end up in game it's unlikely that we'll beat them on any lead. If they're going to bid slam, I may get a chance to double diamonds at a safer level. To make a sensible decision, I really need to know what their methods are after a double. If I knew they couldn't redouble for blood, double would be more attractive. If I knew that they hadn't discussed continuations at all, I definitely would double. However, I can't find this out without inflicting UI on partner (assuming the ACBL is still playing its premier teams events without screens), and anyway the opponents don't have to answer questions about hypothetical future actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mfa1010 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Thanks mike777 and JLOGIC :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'd pass. Doubling is quite risky, and the upside isn't that great. RHO appears to have extra values, so if they end up in game it's unlikely that we'll beat them on any lead. If they're going to bid slam, I may get a chance to double diamonds at a safer level. To make a sensible decision, I really need to know what their methods are after a double. If I knew they couldn't redouble for blood, double would be more attractive. If I knew that they hadn't discussed continuations at all, I definitely would double. However, I can't find this out without inflicting UI on partner (assuming the ACBL is still playing its premier teams events without screens), and anyway the opponents don't have to answer questions about hypothetical future actions.I have never seen anyone play in 3♦XX after a 2NT showing a 5-4 fit in a major ever. So until it happens to someone I am not going to fear that.I tried the dubious double, because I thought I couldn't stand a black suit lead - certainly not a spade. Well done mike777 who guessed the theme. I hit partner with SIX diamonds, but after the double I suspect declarer thought I also had the length in diamonds so he finessed my partner for ♥Qxx to make 6♥. It felt annoying because with 6 or maybe even five very strong diamonds, I could have made a 3♦ overcall after 2NT nv vs vul to insure the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimG Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) MFA I got you for sick odds against lynch. TBH I am not sure who the fav is in your match, i thought it was roughly pick em. GL! You're not betting $ on the outcome of an ACBL event, are you? :-) Edited to add a smiley; I was just teasing. Edited July 19, 2012 by TimG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 You're not betting $ on the outcome of an ACBL event, are you? I'm quite sure he is speaking in the metaphorical sense of the word "odds". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 I'm quite sure he is speaking in the metaphorical sense of the word "odds". I was thinking he was speaking in the metaphorical sense of the word "got." But in the highly unlikely event that he was being literal, it's pretty nitty to care anyway imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted July 19, 2012 Report Share Posted July 19, 2012 Spingold is going really fine so far, and tomorrow we are (hopefully) going to have Lynch for lunch :) We survived an unusual disaster against Amoils today (won by 4): [hv=pc=n&s=s754h6dkq65cj6432&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=1hp2n(GF%20fit)p3c(Min)p3d(Ask)]133|200[/hv] Double for ♦-lead or not? I have never seen anyone play in 3♦XX after a 2NT showing a 5-4 fit in a major ever. So until it happens to someone I am not going to fear that.I tried the dubious double, because I thought I couldn't stand a black suit lead - certainly not a spade. Well done mike777 who guessed the theme. I hit partner with SIX diamonds, but after the double I suspect declarer thought I also had the length in diamonds so he finessed my partner for ♥Qxx to make 6♥. It felt annoying because with 6 or maybe even five very strong diamonds, I could have made a 3♦ overcall after 2NT nv vs vul to insure the lead. Congratulations on your victories so far and good luck for the rest of the week. When this hand was shown on vugraph, there were a few differences. First of all, the vulnerability was shown as game all. Secondly, you were shown as having passed as dealer with the 1♥ opener in second seat (though I believe that you could not open a weak two in diamonds, so the inferences from passing as dealer may not affect too much). I would have doubled 3♦ too; Larry Cohen thought it was obvious to do so. Passing is dangerous, as when partner has roughly equal holdings in the side suits, the one suit he won't be leading is diamonds, noting your failure to double. Your opponent did very well to get the hearts right; diamonds are quite likely to be 5-5 from his point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 @ jallertonYou are likely right about the details. I posted from my bad memory :lol: @ JLOGICSorry, we sucked in 2&3 so it was not good enough to play well in 1&4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 edit: had to edit this post, thanks gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 (edited) Serious questions because I don't want to do anything unethical or that would alter anything, and if someone gives me a good reason that these things are bad I will stop of course.Obviously there's nothing morally wrong with betting such as you describe, but here are some good reasons not to do it:Betting at Tournaments - Wagering on the results of an ACBL-sanctioned event is specifically prohibited. Any member found guilty of any form of such betting in a game or tournament is liable to severe disciplinary action.It shall be a violation for any player, team captain or official, or any other persons associated with or related to a player, team captain or official participating in any WBF event to wager on the results of any such event or part thereof.Any violation will be subject to charges to be presented to a hearing before the WBF Disciplinary Commission.In contrast, the EBU regulations are less restrictive (and better thought-out, in my opinion):It is permissible to have a bet with another competitor but only on the success of one of the two players. No bet is permitted where a player can affect the outcome in his favour by not competing to his best efforts.It is inappropriate for a player who has made a bet on an event to serve on an Appeals Committee in the same event. Edited July 20, 2012 by gnasher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Well ok then. Didn't even realize it was against the rules, luckily we just make lines for fun to see who would win and don't wager really money! EBU is the nuts it seems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 pmsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 20, 2012 Report Share Posted July 20, 2012 Congrats to my friends (team Glick) who won the 1500 Spingold in convincing fashion! Q1 was 21-20, Q2 was 96-1, and opps WD. Well deserved win for the Michigan crew. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted July 21, 2012 Report Share Posted July 21, 2012 Betting at Tournaments - Wagering on the results of an ACBL-sanctioned event is specifically prohibited. Any member found guilty of any form of such betting in a game or tournament is liable to severe disciplinary action.So, Calcuttas have to be non-sanctioned games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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