happybridge Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 :-2/1 S:8 S:AK542H:653 H:A2D:AKQ9752 D:1083C:A4 C:Q75[N] [E] [W] 1D - 1S x 3NT - 4D - - - 1. is 3NT OK?2. 4D slam interesting or sign off?3. 4H kickback or not?4.what you recomand? thx in advanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bglover Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 In 2/1 this is a slam auction plain and simple. Any bid past 3n after a minor opening (except 5 minor after 3n) says "Partner, I have a fit for your minor and undisclosed assets." In SAYC should be the same thing but I know some who play it as a badly flawed hand that does not want to play NT even opposite known strength (i.e., singleton or void and fear of Nt going down due to it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenze Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 I agree that 4 diamonds is a slam try. The bid I do not like is West's 3NT without a heart stopper. I believe a 3 diamond call is about right on strength and nature of the hand. This will allow west to bid 3NT with a slightly weaker hand and a vulnerable heart stop such as Kx. Right siding hands like this will produce many MPs over the long run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 Weast's 3NT without a heart stopper is a bad bid, you can go down 2 in a hand cold for 5d or 6d. 4d is a slam try, now I usually agree with my pd that a 4NT bid by a hand that had just bid 3NT is to-play deniying any slam interest at all. Of course this is not the case of the west hand that should bid 4s over 4d showing a spade control and deniying a heart control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junyi_zhu Posted June 5, 2003 Report Share Posted June 5, 2003 All you need from partner is HA or a friendly lead + SA, or heart 4-4 + SA to have somegood play in 3NT, so 3NT wasn't that horrible in my opinion. do you expect partner to bid 3NT over 3D with something like SJTxxx HAxx Dxx Cxxx?Also, the doubler might not know which suit to lead, since his partner never bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrance Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 a simple!!but bid 3nt is bad like me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifemonster Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 Interesting. Will West bid the same if there is no double? I guess we agree that 3NT shows some kind of gambling type but not with this. If you really want to create a GF auction, I don't mind bidding 3C. Dummy has SJTxxx HAxx Dxx Cxxx, so they have 22 HCPs combined and they sell out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 While you guys criticized 3N, nobody mention the 4D bid. I agree that 4D should show slam interest. But my question is, does east has a hand to show slam interest? Afterall, his hand is really flat, min opening and flat shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifemonster Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 Should E make slam move after 3NT? I won't be surprised given a trust worthy 3NT bid, GRAND is laydown. How can you not be slammish with E's hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted July 26, 2003 Report Share Posted July 26, 2003 If 3N is worthy trust, then he should have at least 7 casrd akqxxxx and a side honor, so what is the point to bid 4d? If you want to show slam interest, then leap to 6d. you know the problem lies in club. If pd has c control, it is laydown. So best chance for slam is to leap to 6 directly. This hand is not appropriate for fine bidding, i think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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