lycier Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Bid or Pass? [hv=pc=n&s=sk53hk98dk765cqj9&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=pp]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yin970902 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 Pass.没赢墩来源，点力太分散。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U19 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 戈伦说了：4333牌型，-1p，没Ace，-1，结论很简单吧：自然体系pass，想也不要想；精确体系有定约，开1D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungh Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 任何位置都pass虽然有12HCP，缺少两个防守墩，也没有指示首攻的花色。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windbrid1 Posted July 12, 2012 Report Share Posted July 12, 2012 我选择开叫1D。 1.（按劳伦斯的《二家PASS后的叫牌》中的说明，好像是开叫1N。。。。） 2.二家PASS后，一般要降低点力及牌型要求积极进取开叫，理由也较充足。 3.开叫将有效破坏OPP的正常叫牌进程， 4.来自同伴的任何应叫品都不会让你处于难堪地步。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fg7788 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 1D，不开口没机会了。最少剥夺了第四家开叫1C、1D的叫牌机会，如果他的牌型又不适合技术性加倍，又不够1NT，没有长套，也只能PASS了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 不开，单有局，搭档没开叫实力， 用一个低花弱套开叫不如隐藏实力好些；如果敌方开叫后搭档能争叫一轮可以考虑加叫搭档一次，然后不叫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
85114122 Posted July 13, 2012 Report Share Posted July 13, 2012 不叫，牌型太差 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINGHUAF Posted July 15, 2012 Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Bid or Pass? [hv=pc=n&s=sk53hk98dk765cqj9&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=pp]133|200[/hv]科恩拿着《叫还是不叫——总墩数定律》书稿给哈曼看，哈曼提笔就把不叫给划掉了，叫！叫牌是勇敢者的游戏，如果排除MP和IMP,有局和无局及其他影响因素的话，毫无疑问地开叫！当然，如果你是怕死型，你很可能面临二阶是否要平衡的问题，相信你知道二级平衡的风险，所以贯彻你前面的方针，你还是PASS算了：打MP不就是一副牌；IMP不就是个部分定约吗？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted July 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2012 Hi大家辛苦了，现解答如下：南家即使在第三家，也不该开叫的。这手牌不符合20法则（更何况20法则远没有那么完全可靠！） 。 整手牌无A无10，使得这手牌的估值变得很糟。 或问：难道第三家不应该轻开叫吗？ 或许能开，但是这仅在有一个良好的的理由时，才会如此。 如果这牌开叫1D几乎没有阻击价值，而且甚至都不是渴望同伴首攻的花色！所以应该Pass！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8119866 Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 谢谢楼主的解答，这题之前我会选择轻开叫1D,以后遇这类牌也会坚决选择PASS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopeoffire Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 我还是选择开叫，我希望同伴能加叫方块，或者自由应叫1阶高花，如果第三家不开叫，我自己和同伴都可能没有机会表达自己的牌 唯一的坏处的：本来是4家pass的牌，最后我们被迫牺牲敌人的部分定约，有局下1，下2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted September 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 温故知新，其实这就是估值；一手牌的估值技术与你的经验密不可分，是真实的牌技水平表现。估值不等同于计算hcp大牌点，hcp大牌点是静息僵硬的，而估值是有生命力的经验与认知的判断，随着叫牌的进程---不论有无争叫，又处于动态的。希望朋友注意学习，估值计算是牌技水平的核心。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21574770 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 PASS是合理的选择，如果出于战术需要第3家开叫1♦后就永远不叫，希望同伴不要把牌叫得太高 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qf2000 Posted September 28, 2012 Report Share Posted September 28, 2012 开叫 ：1♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted September 29, 2012 Report Share Posted September 29, 2012 我会选择PASS，你的叫牌，只能为对方的做庄提供帮助。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chenxuemin Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 就这个局况我选择pass,局况有利选择1d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 温故知新，其实这就是估值；一手牌的估值技术与你的经验密不可分，是真实的牌技水平表现。估值不等同于计算hcp大牌点，hcp大牌点是静息僵硬的，而估值是有生命力的经验与认知的判断，随着叫牌的进程---不论有无争叫，又处于动态的。希望朋友注意学习，估值计算是牌技水平的核心。 今天我们在讨论估值和牌理上都作了很多的有益尝试，那么现在的你在温习该帖时，再次讨论该帖，是否依旧坚持开叫？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 对不开叫表示无法理解，一个废点都没有的12点，还有3个K，两个9…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 不是所有的12p都值得开叫，我觉得没有两枚赢墩的开叫，很会欺骗搭档，除外图穷时的策略性开叫，还要征得搭档约定同意。这和精确体系不相为谋。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zs_xjm Posted March 4, 2013 Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 可以PASS,如果要轻开叫,要叫1C吧, 同伴任何应叫都可以不叫了 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2013 可以PASS,如果要轻开叫,要叫1C吧, 同伴任何应叫都可以不叫了 其实我对zs_xjm构思很感动，真聪明，很灵巧。只是心中忐忑在于同伴若是争得庄位，我的这几个大佬K啊，被无情地打穿梭了，而且还有同伴过于高估开叫人之嫌。另外敌人参与竟叫后，底气不足就会显现，进与不进，沦落猜测。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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