Hanoi5 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 ♠AJ76532♥Ax♦xx♣xx Teams, all red, you dealt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perko90 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 With 2 bullets, the boss suit, and terrible spots, I'll start w/ 1♠. A distant 2nd choice would be 3♠. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 1♠. Second choice is pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 agree 1s dont think much of any preempt here andpass doesnt do much for me either with the 2 aces. It is an easy hand to bid and rebid so go for it.IMO 1s=10 p = 6 2/3/4s = 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Zero spades for me. My partners lose their sense of humor, but not their fondness for forcing to game on misfitting 12s, if I open too many hands like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 1♠ -- the shape and texture doesn't seem right for 3♠ and the 2 Aces are strike three.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'd open 1. Not sure what my 2nd choice is - either 2♠ or pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I play intermediate two bids, so this decision is easy for me in my main partnership. In a standard partnership, I think I'd open 1 and keep bidding spades for a while. I don't particularly object to 3S 1st seat, and that would be my 2nd choice, though I think 1 is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 2♠ for me - no spots and too much Defense for 3♠, most people want a few more HCP for 1♠ (I wouldn't even attempt it unless 1♠ is limited), and partner will NEVER believe that I have this good a hand if I initially pass. Why are so many people saying Pass is an option, seriously??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 1♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 The plan in the title sounds good to me, but OK I wouldn't bid spades a fourth time. Side question:1S-1N2S-3S (assuming 3-card limit raises would raise to 4S)? 1S-1N2S-2N? I think I'd bid 4S over the first and 3S over the second, but maybe I should pass the first one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I think I'd bid 4S over the first and 3S over the second, but maybe I should pass the first one? Teams, all red, you dealt... You should make a game try imo. (bid and try to make it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 You would also rebid 4S over 1N and 2N from partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 You would also rebid 4S over 1N and 2N from partner? Definetely. EDIT: Sorry, no, not over 1NT and then 2 NT where pd can have stiff ♠. I thought u are asking something different. Basically i would do what you said you would before you questioned yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkham Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'd open 3♠, it fits the description well enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'd open 3♠, it fits the description well enough. With two aces? However did we have such a successful partnership... I'd probably pass, second choice 1♠. ahydra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 With two aces? However did we have such a successful partnership... I'd probably pass, second choice 1♠. ahydra Never preempt with two aces - although I once opened a weak two with three aces, I assume that's ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I'd bid 1 ♠ with this hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 So, 1♠>>>Pass>>3♠>>>2♠>>>4♠? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Zero spades for me. My partners lose their sense of humor, but not their fondness for forcing to game on misfitting 12s, if I open too many hands like this. I also absolutely cannot open 1♠ in my partnership, pard is super aggressive red at inps and heading for 3nt way too often on chunky 11's. By agreement our 2 bids are more constructive than 3 here so I'll try that and cross my fingers. It's an uncomfortable hand for sure. I could miss game but that's more excusable than going for 800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 1♠The plan in the title sounds good to me, but OK I wouldn't bid spades a fourth time. Side question:1S-1N2S-3S (assuming 3-card limit raises would raise to 4S)? 1S-1N2S-2N? I think I'd bid 4S over the first and 3S over the second, but maybe I should pass the first one?First quote=most eloquent. Second quote=good follow-ups...maybe we "should" pass 1S-1N-2S-3S, but we know we wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 So, 1♠>>>Pass>>3♠>>>2♠>>>4♠?No. If you switch around a few cards, it is not hard to make this hand into a 2♠ bid (AJxxxx instead) or a 3♠ bid (KJTxxxx instead) or a 4♠ bid (KJTxxxxx). But my choice is still clear. I don't think this is a contradiction. A pass is a bit further (at least to me). OK, make it Axxxxx of spades and KJ outside. I don't expect to lose a lot of imps if I choose 2S or 3S. But that's also not what we should be talking about a clear choice. Say you give me a normal balanced 14 count. I would open it with 1C/1D, but would I expect to lose a lot of imps if I opened it with the other minor? If I opened it 1NT? Not really. Do I consider the decision choice? Also not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkham Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Opening 1♠ is no good, you make things easy for opponents and hard for your partner. How's he ever going to know you actually had a 3♠ opener? :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Opening 1♠ is no good, you make things easy for opponents and hard for your partner. How's he ever going to know you actually had a 3♠ opener? :)Certainly glad you added the emoticon. For a second I thought you might mean some part of what you wrote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkham Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I really do favour a 3♠ opening here - I added the emoticon to show that the suggestion it's a clear-cut 3♠ opener is a joke. Hanoi5 - can you tell us what you (or whoever had this hand) did at the table? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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