xx1943 Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Hi Billies Yesterday I misplayed a hand, which I should have made after the penalty double.[hv=d=w&v=a&n=sk765ha5dkjck8642&w=sjt4hqt763d32ca97&e=saq32hdq8754cqj53&s=s98hkj9842dat96ct]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South Pass 2♣! Pass 2♥ Precision Pass Pass Dbl 3♥ Dbl Pass Pass Pass SJ S5 S3 S8 ST S6 S2 S9 S4 S7 SQ H2 CT CA C2 C5 D3 DJ DQ DA [hv=d=w&v=a&n=sk765ha5dkjck8642&w=sjt4hqt763d32ca97&e=saq32hdq8754cqj53&s=s98hkj9842dat96ct]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]You lost 3 tricks and must hold your trump loser to 1.How are the hearts distributed? 5/0? 4/1? Is it possible, that East has a single Q or 10?How do you play now? Here as hidden hint how I went down. Hope you'll do better. HJ H3 H5 D4 H4 H6 HA D5 DK D7 D6 D2 CK C3 D9 C7 C4 CJ H8 C9 DT H7 C6 D8 HT C8 SA HK H9 HQ SK CQ Nobody made 9 tricks in hearts, but most aren't doubled, so they had no reason to find the winning line. What you should learn: Be cautious in doubling. Maybe your double enables declarer to win an otherwise unwinnable contract. :D Sincerly Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 (edited) There is an equally important lesson.. having to do with ducking the setting trick... which WEST does here as we will pick it up with the first play hidden above... Al's play went HQ - H3 - H5 <<--- this telescoped his two heart tricks into one. Al's (south) correct play now is diamond King, club king, club ruff, diamond ruff by WEST (forced) and overruff.. and ruff something with 9 for K98 and force WEST to overruff, but then he has to lead from Qx into K8. Al played a second heart, allowing west a second chance to defeat the contract, which was defeat via WEST winning his two heart tricks after all. By covering the heart JACK with the QUEEN (to force the ACE), south insures two heart tricks with H-T763 behnid south's K984... {EDIT - Hidden text unhidden } Edited November 24, 2004 by inquiry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 Hi Al..'be cautious when doubling' ... Agree completely... I have an unenviable history of doubling opps into games or 5 level doubles for top scores.Some sneeky player may double you without any of the outstanding trumps, their partner sitting smuggly with the others. Time and again I see my carefully layed plan collapse with my first attempt to remove trump... How do you really know how to tackle the problem once you have been doubled... where are the oustanding trump cards :-)) Used to be said 'if you cannot put opps down by 2, then don't double for penalties'... but now it seems with the optional double much more competitive? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted November 21, 2004 Report Share Posted November 21, 2004 More important lesson, dont self-raise uncessarly. why not pass 2Hx? west is endplayed there. YOu r waiting with your red card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlPurple Posted November 23, 2004 Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 There's no way to make this. You can eliminate the minors but you just haven't shortened your trumps enough and it always goes 1 off. (By the way, I find your way of displaying the play very hard to follow. Much easier to follow is to keep the cards played in the column under the player who played them, with a * next to the card that won the trick, so it's easy to see what is led). And no, I disagree with your comments, I don't see players doubling enough. And I watch a lot of bridge and see big penalties go by, possible 800s and 1100s, often being substituted for -100 when they bid on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xx1943 Posted November 23, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2004 Hi EarlThere's no way to make this. You can eliminate the minors but you just haven't shortened your trumps enough and it always goes 1 off.Sry you are wrong. Look at Ben's solution above.If LHO doesn't cover the heart J (If he does the contract is -1 for sure) you play Diamond K, Club K, Club ruff and K of diamonds leaving[hv=n=skhadc64&w=shq1076dc&e=sahd87cq&s=shk98d10c]399|300|[/hv]now lead diamond 10 from your hand and overrruff LHO,lead a club back and insert heart 8 or 9 and LHO is endplayed. There is another winning line: Finesse the 9 instead of the J of hearts and hope LHo doesn't cover. (By the way, I find your way of displaying the play very hard to follow. Much easier to follow is to keep the cards played in the column under the player who played them, with a * next to the card that won the trick, so it's easy to see what is led).Sry this is the way as Cascades Lin-converter exposes the deal. I use it for convenience.(By the way, I find your way of displaying the play very hard to follow. Much easier to follow is to keep the cards played in the column under the player who played them, with a * next to the card that won the trick, so it's easy to see what is led).Rite you are in BBO many people bid too much and double too rare. I said only be cautious. Sometimes you'll give declarer the hint how to play the hand vy your double.Btw. The increasing number of artificial doubles( negative, responsive, thrump ...) result in missing many good penalties. Regards Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlPurple Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 when I say there is no way to make it, I am assuming that West is defending correctly. Of course he is going to cover the jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlPurple Posted November 25, 2004 Report Share Posted November 25, 2004 By the way, Larry Cohen warns against re-opening doubles with a void. Too likely to be left in by partner at the wrong time. So perhaps here it is East's re-opening double which might be faulty (West might leave it in, and there is certainly no way to beat 2♥!). As it happens, on this hand 2♠ might play reasonably well but there's no way to know that, and it's too likely that it will play poorly. South should not have bid 3♥. If the 2♥ bid shows what he has, pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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