benlessard Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 AQ8754 J2 play for 1 loser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Lead J toward length, intending to finesse. Win if covered, then small to 7/8. 5 tricks 79.1% of time. Win 6 some 3.4% of the time. Gives up 2 to to K109xx on side and 3 to 0 - 5 offside. Gives up 2 to all x - xxxx. Check out suit play at http://home.planet.nl/~narcis45/suitplay/Windows friendly donate/freeware that has great ability to find best lines for suit combinations.Line above unadjusted for open spaces or HCP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 The jack is right because it picks up KT9x and KTxx/K9xx onside, losing to stiff king in either hand. I assume the mistake is that it is recommended to cash the ace, which would be correct if it was AQ5432 opp J6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 An interesting combination I had never thought about before. Messing around with Suitplay confirms that this suit is handled differently with the 8 and 7, with only the 8, and without the 8. I routinely think of 8s as "x"es and expect them to make no difference to how I play a suit, except for sometimes giving me a bonus trick when a singleton 9 or T falls. But there seem to be a lot of combinations where it matters. Anything that gets me out of that complacency is a good thing. Just tonight on BBO I saw Qxx opposite T97xx, where the right play is different from Qxx opposite T9xxx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 An interesting combination I had never thought about before. Messing around with Suitplay confirms that this suit is handled differently with the 8 and 7, with only the 8, and without the 8. I routinely think of 8s as "x"es and expect them to make no difference to how I play a suit, except for sometimes giving me a bonus trick when a singleton 9 or T falls. But there seem to be a lot of combinations where it matters. Anything that gets me out of that complacency is a good thing. Just tonight on BBO I saw Qxx opposite T97xx, where the right play is different from Qxx opposite T9xxx.One I posted in another thread: A1076xx K8 For 1 loser, the 6 is significant here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 AQ8754 J2 play for 1 loserI do not get it.I have the second edition of Reese on Play (1978) and it gives AQ8xx opposite Jxxx (low to the queen for 5 tricks, lead the jack for 4 tricks)AQxxxx opposite Jx (ace first)A9xxxx opposite Jx (low to the jack) I can not find your combination at all. Where is the mistake? By the way, I am aware of many mistakes in Reese books. It is still one of my favorite authors. Rainer Herrmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 I have found a first edition called "Master Play In Contract Bridge" from 1960 in my library.This mistake has been corrected by Terence himself in the second edition. Rainer Herrmann 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 One I posted in another thread: A1076xx K8 For 1 loser, the 6 is significant here.Is this the one where you lead the T to pick up stiff 9 on either side (overtaking if 9 appears on your right) as well as stiff Q or J on your right? And RHO grosvenors you by playing the 9 from QJ9x under the T then laughs at you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted July 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 The book I have is Reese on Play, Better Bridge Now. Chess & Bridge edition 2001 reprinted in 2006 Like Justin said he suggest bagging the A to pick up stiff K on both side. Like most people found the correct answer is running the J first followed by low to 9/8 (if JKA on round 1). If you believe that LHO is 2 times more likely to be stiff than East leading low to Q & planning to run the J (if the Q win and a stiff 9/T fall) also make sense, it win against Ktxx---9K9xx---TK------xxxx but lose against KT9x----x since K---xxxx is one case andKT9x--x is 2 cases 14 must have twice the odds of a 41 break for playing low to Q to make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted July 7, 2012 Report Share Posted July 7, 2012 Is this the one where you lead the T to pick up stiff 9 on either side (overtaking if 9 appears on your right) as well as stiff Q or J on your right? And RHO grosvenors you by playing the 9 from QJ9x under the T then laughs at you?If he breaks tempo by a fraction I'm going to be the one laughing, but yes it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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