bd71 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 [hv=pc=n&n=saq97532h75d4ck84]133|100[/hv] What is your preference and why? Edit: we are NV vs. Vul. Further edit: first seat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 What is your preference and why?3♠ unless red v white then 2♠. It looks like a pre-empt, doesn't look like a 4♠, but doesn't have enough playing strength due to lack of intermediates in ♠ for 3♠ r/w, whilst also having a little defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 4♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 1s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 If I'm playing a Precision-type system, 1♠. Otherwise, I'm right in line with Statto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm dealer? Then, 1♠ or 4♠ depending on how I am feeling, and what I know of Opps and partner. At these colours, 3♠ would miss too many good games I reckon, and could force me to make the last guess if opps bid to 4♥ anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 3S. This is what a 3S bid looks like to me. Exchange the 9&7 of spades for the J&T and I would open 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perko90 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 An easy 4♠ bid for me at fav. I use rule of 2-3-4, and I'd count this as almost 7 tricks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 It looks like a pre-empt This part I disagree with the most. Personally I would never open this 3♠ w/r because for me the hand is way too good, but even if you play a preempting style where this is a w/r 3♠ opener, it doesn't 'look like' a preempt. The suit is AQ empty instead of KQJ to 7, i.e. it has defense but not playing tricks, and there is also an outside King. Whatever you decide to open it, the hand 'looks like' an opening bid to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 5, 2012 Report Share Posted July 5, 2012 Funny you posted this, I have opened 4S with this hand type at this vul my whole life and feel like I have had good results with it but I have been considering opening 1 recently. I guess as I get older I get more and more scared of the downsides/high variance of opening 4. I think against weak opps I will always open 4 though, they just react extremely poorly to 4 level preempts imo. I think 1 and 4 are both fine though and I wouldn't criticize either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 In my 2 serious partnerships we loosen/tighten our requirements for preempts according to both vulnerability, defense and position. This question didn't state opener's position. In general for position, tight: 4th > 2nd > 1st > 3rd :loose. Likewise for vulnerability, tight: Unfav > Both > Neither > Fav :loose. (We might also adjust what we do based on the judge quality of our opponents tight: weak > Intermediate > Expert :loose). This hand would be a 3♠ opening in 2nd seat (intending to double 4♥ to show 2 D-Tricks & invite partner to pass or bid 4♠). In first seat 1♠ gives us 2 bites at the apple. In 3rd seat 4♠ seems very comfortable. In 4th seat I likely open 2♠. As vulnerability worsens, my 1st seat action would not change. At unfavorable vulnerability 2nd 3rd and 4th seat would be 2♠. Any thoughts how position changes your approach? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted July 6, 2012 Report Share Posted July 6, 2012 The suit is AQ empty instead of KQJ to 7...That's actually why I don't want to open it 4♠, but then, if it makes a difference, I don't normally play NAMYATS. Any thoughts how position changes your approach?Good question. I didn't ask because with this hand I think I'd do the same in all of the 1st 3 seats, and assumed the OP wasn't asking about 4th seat, but for other hands it will be a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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