Phil Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 IMO 2N = 10, 1♣ and 2N = 6, 2♣ and 2N = 4, Double = 2, Pass = 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 IMO 2N = 10, 1♣ and 2N = 6, 2♣ and 2N = 4, Double = 2, Pass = 1. :rolleyes: Pass should be higher than double, since the TD won't get involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I never open 2NT with this because it will go wrong when partner has a misfitting hand!Obviously you don't open 2NT with this, that would be plain daft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuburules3 Posted June 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 What about 1C followed by a jump to 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikl_plkcc Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I would go 1♣ - 3♣ if it is forcing, but, if 3♣ is not forcing, the system is essentially unplayable with this hand. All my notrump runout systems assume that there cannot be two doubletons in the opener's hand, and all my constructive bidding systems assume that there cannot be a five-card major in the opener's hand. If I open this 2NT, LHO doubles, partner applies the runout system and lands with 6 trumps only, then we will be in a even more trouble. What's more -- I'd love to see the auction with AKQ / 5432 / AK2 / 432 after 1C-1S. I would reverse into 2♥. P.S. I said nonsense before, picking up this, I would likely to open 1NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfi Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I would reverse into 2♥. So, you've now taken two strong bids on your balanced 17 count, and the highest card in your hand that you've shown is a 5? And all this to avoid "distorting" your hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 What about 1C followed by a jump to 3NT? This is probably the best option, if you decide to open 1♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 omg 2N 2N 2N 2N Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 Qx Qx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikl_plkcc Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I now find that the "stopper" rule of opening 1NT is flawed, but I will still adhere to all other strict rules for opening 1NT: No voids and singletons (as usual);No 5-card majors;No good 5-card minors (such as AKJxx); Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Welcome to 1963! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 Welcome to 1963! That is unfair. This must be 1964 at least! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted July 2, 2012 Report Share Posted July 2, 2012 I now find that the "stopper" rule of opening 1NT is flawed, but I will still adhere to all other strict rules for opening 1NT:Are there any strict rules on font size? B-) No good 5-card minors (such as AKJxx);Really you must open 1NT with a 5332 with a 5-card minor if it's in range, whatever the minor looks like. This has been proven to be better. Trust me, I'm a doctor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikl_plkcc Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 Really you must open 1NT with a 5332 with a 5-card minor if it's in range, whatever the minor looks like. This has been proven to be better. Trust me, I'm a doctor. I don't know if my system is flawed, but about 8 out of 10 3NT contracts go down in my partnership (usually due to a suit run by the opponents), so I avoid 3NT whenever possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I don't know if my system is flawed, but about 8 out of 10 3NT contracts go down in my partnership (usually due to a suit run by the opponents), so I avoid 3NT whenever possible. 8/10 Lol. On what do you bid 3NT? Peronally I try to bid 3NT as often as i can.Also I am curious as to how you bid: KxAKxxxKxKxx 1H 1NT?2NT is terrible as you often end up in a non making contract when the field is in 1NT 1H 1S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 2NT focuses on the right declarer, but it puts too much emphasis on playing 4M if partner has 6M or 5-5M, I would like to avoid that if possible. 1♣-3NT seems to avoid that problem althou gives RHO a free shot to ask for the right lead. I would want to open a natural 3NT :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 3, 2012 Report Share Posted July 3, 2012 I don't know if my system is flawed, but about 8 out of 10 3NT contracts go down in my partnership (usually due to a suit run by the opponents), so I avoid 3NT whenever possible.http://www.amazon.com/Play-Bridge-Hand-William-Root/dp/0517881594is a good book. There are good ways of countering defenders's attempts of running their suit, for example hold-up plays, avoidance plays and last but not least running your own suit (AKJxx is a good suit to run for example). http://www.amazon.com/Watsons-Classic-Book-Play-Bridge/dp/0064632091I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed this book, too, but some people find the language too dry (it is also outmoded but that is one of the things I really enjoyed!). Also, there are no exercises (you always see all four hands). Still it is a nice book. Later on you can also try the Rodwell files, which starts out with some very basic ones before moving quite quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikl_plkcc Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 8/10 Lol. On what do you bid 3NT? Peronally I try to bid 3NT as often as i can.Also I am curious as to how you bid: KxAKxxxKxKxx 1H 1NT?2NT is terrible as you often end up in a non making contract when the field is in 1NT 1H 1S? I bid 3NT whenever I know there are 25 HCPs in total and no 8-card fit exists. Is this wrong? For the first, I bid nothing; for the second, I bid 2♥, lying (this is the only problematic shape I encounter). I know that I need to run suits for a 3NT contract, but, in most cases, they run their suit before I can run my suit (for example, AKJxx cannot be run when the Q is offside). I had 218 hands played on BBO in the last month. 44 of them were played in 3NT, but only 6 of them were played by me. 4 of them made and 2 of them set. It seems that I have already changed my bidding style to avoid 3NT whenever I have an 8 card-fit found. Earlier, in April, I played 258 hands, 48 hands were played in 3NT, 10 out of 48 were played by me and 9 out of 10 went down! 6 out of 10 times I played worse than DD. The worst one, in terms of tricks, went down 5 when the 8-card diamond fit could not be found while the field was in 3♦! The worst one, in terms of IMPs, got -7.87 IMPs when I played that 3NT-1 when the field made!http://www.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands.php?traveller=M-1334553973-34060236&username=mikl_plkccWhen I got to my hand, I ran the diamond suit, but DD analysis afterward showed that I should take a club trick before running the diamond suit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted July 4, 2012 Report Share Posted July 4, 2012 The worst one, in terms of IMPs, got -7.87 IMPs when I played that 3NT-1 when the field made!http://www.bridgebase.com/myhands/hands.php?traveller=M-1334553973-34060236&username=mikl_plkccWhen I got to my hand, I ran the diamond suit, but DD analysis afterward showed that I should take a club trick before running the diamond suit!This hand suggests to me that you are not counting your tricks before you play a card. This is important. Look back at the hand now and think to yourself how you come to 9 tricks without a second club trick. Once you decide you need a club trick then you can see how important the ♦A is as an entry. The other thing that leaps out at me from this hand is the way you ran the spade queen. Think for a moment about how the suit might divide (use a spare deck of cards if it helps) and where you gain. If South has the king (as here) they will simply win it. The opponents still have the JT against your A9. But what if North holds the king? Well they simply cover and after you win the ace their JT are now set up as winners. You have helped them! When you hold the ace and the queen of a suit, but not the king or jack, it is often right to lead low towards the queen and rarely correct to run the queen. This is even more so missing the ten. Playing suit combinations like this well is an important part of becoming "luckier" in bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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