fuburules3 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 All white at IMPS. You are playing a basic 2/1 card and deal yourself S: QxH: QxD: KQxC: AKQJxx What's your plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I will open 1♣ and plan to reverse into 2♦. I play the jump to 3m as limited 15-17. I don't like a 2N rebid nor a 2N opening bid here. Partner knows to expect strength and at least 3 ♦ cards. I rate this hand to be about 17.25 HCP...I need partners help in the majors if NT is to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 As I see it, if NT is the right strain it most certainly should be declared by this hand. The 2D reverse after a 1M response will probably get NT played by responder whether Leben comes into play or not. So, what the heck, I rebid 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasetb Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Hands that have Qx in a Major generally want to declare, and we have that in BOTH majors, so put me down in the 2NT rebid camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antonylee Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would just open 2N. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would just open 2N. So would I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fg7788 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 1.20-21 HCPs,half balance ,I would just open 2NT.2.Qx better for NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Looks like 19 in bean count, and is right around 19 in adjustments +/-. Doesn't reach 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quartic Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I would like to open 1♣ and rebid 3NT - that should show this sort of hand IMO. If I don't have it available, I probably rebid 2NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 1♣ and 2N rebid , why do we need to get fancy here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 At the table I would open 1♣, without further plans for the time being. The auction could be many places when it gets back to me, I prefer to spend my mental energy on actual problems rather than hypothetical ones. Since this is a forum, I will assume partner bids 1♥/♠ and ops are quiet. Then I will rebid 3NT. Back to the real table, I may now go down in 3NT, and regret having pointed LHO to the correct major. Perhaps opening 2NT is better after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Looks like a 2NT opening to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I like 1c then 3nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'd open 2N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 The problems I see with this thread are: Posters probably don't agree on what the incremental ranges are for NT bidding. Some posters probably use the 2NT rebid and the 3NT rebid differently from other posters, or use them interchangably, depending on whim. IMO, one or the other should be a gadget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I'm in the camp that opens this a 20-21 2nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 2 NT of course. This is not only about hand evaluation, it is also about strategy. Say it goes 2 NT all pass or 2 NT -3 NT down 2 or 3 or make but regardless how many of us will be thrilled to defend a 4♥ or 4♠ with this 19 hcp ? Also, we cant really do much about LHO's long major since he is on lead but how many of us want RHO to introduce his major in a slow auction like 1♣-pass-1♦-1M or DBL 1♣-pass-1♥-1♠ ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 given that issue I x(3d) after pards 1d and cue over pards 1h but I understand your point. I dont have any issues if you prefer to open 2nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Opening 1♣ and jumping in NT or Opening 2N gives up on slam whenever partner holds AK and A in the majors and 3-4 ♣. I think the reverse keeps open the possibility to declare 3N from this hand if partner is not super weak. Granted 2N is practical but why give up on the upside this hand offers? Something like ♠AKx ♥Axx ♦xxxx ♣xxx would raise to 3N or pass a 3N rebid, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Another 2NT here. I don't like the reverse, the hand is essentially balanced and what's more we have Qx in the other 2 suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikl_plkcc Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 100% 1♣ I never open 2NT with this because it will go wrong when partner has a misfitting hand! I have strict rules on opening NT:No voids and singletons (as usual);No 5-card majors;No good 5-card minors (such as AKJxx);No two unstopped suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I have strict rules on opening NT:No voids and singletons (as usual);No 5-card majors;No good 5-card minors (such as AKJxx);No two unstopped suits. Welcome to 1953! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 Welcome to 1953! What's more -- I'd love to see the auction with AKQ / 5432 / AK2 / 432 after 1C-1S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 its not all strictly about hcp sometimes you can look at a hand and see what you need this had requires p to have around 11 for 5 of a minor but only around 6 for 3n or 4Mit seems perfectly reasonable to open this hand 1c and if p bids bid 3n which shoulddescribe this hand perfectly allowing opener to rebid their 6+ card major if they have one. If p is broke i will be a ton happier in 1c than any number of nt. i choose 1c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtGodel Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 I don't know whether I'd reverse, I think partner would interpret that as showing 4♦s. I would probably rebid 2NT.My partner and I considered using the opening range 18-19 for 2NT and opening 20-22 with multi 2♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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