Hanoi5 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 [hv=pc=n&w=s8753hk763da874c4&e=sajt92haj82dkjtc5&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=p1sdr2cp3c4s5cpp5sppp]266|200[/hv] The bidding might have been 5♠ by East Pass-Pass-Pass, but I'm not sure. ♣A and then ♣K. I ruffed in dummy throwing a heart from hand. How should I tackle trumps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Low to the 9.... ( playing the DBLer for a stiff ). Even if it loses, I can finesse again later. [ If the first finesse loses to a stiff honor, note how s/he is stuck for a return ] . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Does returning a club give declarer an extra trick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Does returning a club give declarer an extra trick?If you mean after winning the finesse, returning another ♣ gives Declarer another ruffNsluff... thereby eliminating a ♥ loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Low to the 9.... ( playing the DBLer for a stiff ). Even if it loses, I can finesse again later. [ If the first finesse loses to a stiff honor, note how s/he is stuck for a return ] . What if LHO returns a trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 What if LHO returns a trump?You win of course, and then have to rely on the ♦ finesse and 3-3 break ( in order to pitch the other losing ♥ ). If no 3-3 ♦, then have to fall back on the ♥ finesse which is favored to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 You win of course, and then have to rely on the ♦ finesse and 3-3 break ( in order to pitch the other losing ♥ ). If no 3-3 ♦, then have to fall back on the ♥ finesse which is favored to lose.You have red suit squeeze if diamonds don't break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 No comments on the bidding?! What was the redouble meant to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 In vacuum, ace-then-low is almost as good as the double finesse (wins against KQ tight offside, loses against KQx and KQxx onside, every specific 2-2 is more likely than every specific 3-1 but not enough to make up for the missing 4-0) and is usually preferable because of entry problems and/or the threat of defensive ruffs. Here, none of that seems applicable and doubler is also less likely to have KQ tight than in vacuum. I agree with disagreeing with xx. Without any special methods W can bid 3 or 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 KQ were tight offside. I thought double-finessing twice was better, but maybe the double and lho sacrificing should push declarer towards Ace and another? I told North the redouble was 'creative'. I recommended showing a limit support via 2NT, but the hand looks like a mixed raise, doesn't it? How can that be shown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I told North the redouble was 'creative'. I recommended showing a limit support via 2NT, but the hand looks like a mixed raise, doesn't it? How can that be shown?Some people use 3M-1 for a mixed raise. It's not a bad treatment. I think when you're NV it is very useful, but maybe when V it is not worth it as making preemptive jumps on nothing is not advisable then. You're right about sacrificing, I didn't think about that. Anyway I don't think there's a big difference either way. I usually play ace and another with this trump suit but that is because I want to conserve my brain cells for another day (see also gnasher's post on bridge forum vs bridge simulator). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Offensively, this looks like a limit raise to me. xxxx Kxxx Axx xx would be an above average mixed raise, and this is a trick stronger than that. I wouldn't do either of those, though. Rather than letting LHO get his clubs into the game, I'd just bid 4♠ on the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Offensively, this looks like a limit raise to me. xxxx Kxxx Axx xx would be an above average mixed raise, and this is a trick stronger than that. I wouldn't do either of those, though. Rather than letting LHO get his clubs into the game, I'd just bid 4♠ on the first round.Out of curiosity, what is a minimum preemptive raise for you at this vulnerability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I can't imagine North bidding 5♣ with ♠KQx. He has a weak hand with a likely 6-card suit, I just can't imagine him saving with his only strength in spades. So I would play ace and another. I think anything but 4♠ by responder is a mistake. However, an immediate mixed raise with some jump to the 3-level would be less of a mistake than 2NT or redouble. Would have been nice to play 4♠, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Out of curiosity, what is a minimum preemptive raise for you at this vulnerability?QJxx xx xxxx xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statto Posted June 26, 2012 Report Share Posted June 26, 2012 How should I tackle trumps?As the doubler is more likely to be short, I'd go for the double finesse, getting to back to table with ♥A if need be. I'd also play South for ♦Q if necessary. Had I perhaps already made that choice when I ruffed in dummy? B-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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