Deanrover Posted November 16, 2004 Report Share Posted November 16, 2004 The next Generali World Individual championships is in 2 years. I think it would be interesting to see how a Bot would do. The system could be inputted beforehand. Say the winner was Jack. There would be a special room where Jack plays. It would consist of 4 PCs. The 3 humans would log into BBO and play against Jack. This would then be relayed on Vugraph. This seems better than the alternative of having 3 players at a table and a human manually inputting all the actions, gauging Jack's response, and then playing the relevant card. How do you think the Bot would do? I am impressed with Jack. In 2 years time it should be even better. I think it would get 46 per cent or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlPurple Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 A tourney with bots playing in addition to humans may be interesting. It would be good to see if bridge can reach the level where the bots can compete - like they can in chess. Of course BBO do not arrange the Generali or decide who is playing in it, so I'm not sure what effect posting on this board will have. Also not sure that Jack has capability of integrating with BBO. That's up to the developers of both software to put this integration in. I'd actually like to load Jack's DD analysis when I'm kibbing, it is far superior to DF in functionality: Jack can tell me the par result for the board, and can tell me exactly how many tricks each play will lead to (not just whether the contract makes or not). Maybe soon, if I'm playing in an indy and feel the need to make a getaway, I can secretly put in Jack to sub for me without anyone knowing - although if bridge software becomes anywhere near as good as chess software you'll start finding people get banned for doing that (as happens at some chess sites. At playchess.com you get your rating deleted if you use software other than in the Engine room where it is permitted). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 If you succeed in doing that, why not let Jack's creators know and share it with them? Perhaps a second connection to BBO would be allowed for Jack users, so 2 Jack users can play together in BBO against 2 Jacks. Now that would be extremely cool :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I can try converting a .lin file into a Jack tourney file... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 19, 2004 Report Share Posted November 19, 2004 Now that I'm thinking about it, maybe I can try converting a .lin file into a Jack tourney file... Do you have Jack? If so, I could send you a tourney file with all the results in a PBN format... (say 38 hands per board, 10 boards)... and you can see if you can get that into whatever format a JACK tourney format is. Let me know if you want to try it. If that works, I would be willing to buy JACK (might get it anyway in December when Randy Baron starts selling version 3.0 at Baron/Barclay bridge supplies). Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlPurple Posted December 7, 2004 Report Share Posted December 7, 2004 I have Jack 3.0 now. Unfortunately the play is still very very slow if you want a decent level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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