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[hv=lin=pn|iwannawin,~~M40905,~~M40903,~~M40904|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S278QKH6AD78JCJQK%2CS9JAH23578QDAC48T%2CS356H4KD356TQC267%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%204%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7CForcing%20one%20notrump%20--%206-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CNew%20suit%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%205%2B%20S%3B%2011%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20t%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C5%2B%20H%3B%2010-11%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CS8%7C]360|270[/hv]I was surprised that North didn't bid 2 over 2. What would that have shown?
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Here's a hand that showed support after the interference:

[hv=lin=pn|cemalhamdi,~~M25525,~~M25523,~~M25524|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S3JH357TQD5KAC38J%2CSAH89D3679TQC259A%2CS245TQKH46AD28C67%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%207%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1H%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20H%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7CForcing%20one%20notrump%20--%203-%20H%3B%203-%20S%3B%206%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CNew%20suit%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%205%2B%20H%3B%2011%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-18%20t%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7C5%2B%20D%3B%2010%2B%20HCP%3B%2016-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C3%20H%3B%203-%20S%3B%206%2B%20HCP%3B%2010-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CCT%7C]360|270[/hv]So, the delayed raise is explained as 3card support; 6+ HCP; 10- total points.

 

But, a hand with 3+card support; 7-10 total points wouldn't have bid 1N in the first place:

[hv=lin=pn|bbradley62,~~M33533,~~M33531,~~M33532|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S45TKAH79TD8C26KA%2CSJQH45D257JAC38JQ%2CS379H68JKD3TQKC4T%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%203%7Csv%7Ce%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%201%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%7Can%7CSimple%20raise%20--%203%2B%20S%3B%207-10%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3C%7Can%7CLSGT%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%205%2B%20S%3B%202-11%208421%20HCP%20in%20C%3B%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Can%7C3%2B%20S%3B%208-10%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD6%7C]360|270[/hv]

 

So, is it actually the case that 1M-1N-2m-2M shows 3+ M; 5-6 total points?

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I have a question. What is the use in bidding 1H-1nt-2c-3H = for invitation with 6 spades? Why not 1h-1s-2c-3H= invitation? If 4 spades, maybe 1nt better. But if 5+ spades, always 1s first i think.

Nathan: Most of us agree with you. This subject is being discussed in another thread: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/52400-gib-finds-a-spade-among-his-clubs/

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