nikos59 Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Hi all A question of style: suppose you hold six cards in one majorand not four cards in the other major. Is there any handunder any combination of vulnerability-position whereyou would pass because your hand is too strong for aweak 2 but too weak for a 1-level opener? Is there for you a No Man's land between 2-level and 1-levelopeners? In my most humble opinion, there is no such an animal.If I have six cards in a major I open them at either 1 or 2level (or perhaps at 3 or 4 level:). I believe that whoeverpasses a six-card major with 6 hcp or more deservesany disaster that unavoidably happens to him. I just saw an example of this in BBO Vugraph, Madeiratournament. It was Round 7, Board 6 and one team wasin slam. Only one lead could beat the slam, but the consensus of the commentators was that this (diamond)lead was "out of this world". But the opening leaderled an unerring diamond, beating the slam. I stronglybelieve that the diamond lead was a punishment fromAbove. You see, declarer was dealer, vul. against not,and he had originally *passed* holding: A5QJ864310 3K 10 5 Nikos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 This is a 1S opening A5QJ864310 3K 10 5 This is not a 1S or a 2S openingTxxxxx AQ Qxx Jxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikos59 Posted November 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 Very good example, I might even agree, Ron. Would you also pass withJTxxxx AQ Qxx xxx (or Jxx)? n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 13, 2004 Report Share Posted November 13, 2004 definitely a no mans land for me. Suit quality is the main issue, another issue is defense to offense ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 There are no alternatives for the 8-12 range with a 6 card major other than opening in that suit at some level. But agree with some you: 10xxxxx is a 5 card suit :), J7xxxx rates for the same probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 I'd open 2S with your second example, Nikos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jikl Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Another problem hand is something like: 9xxxxx, A, Axx, xxx You want to open but the 2 As mean that partner will not believe you have a weak 2. You open at the one level and partner bids 2♥, you bid 2♠, and you get the obvious 3NT back and you hate yourself. Sean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 There are some hand that don't qualify for a weak 2 or a one bid. But its more of an issue of suit quality. Frankly, my weak 2's and one bids overlap around a 10 count. 1♠: KJTxxxxAQxxxx 2♠: KJTxxxxxAxxQx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 For me, there are no hands that are too strong for a weak two that aren't strong enough for a one bid, excepting the cases where the "too strong" is purely extra shape, in which case the hand qualifies for a higher preempt. I will never pass a hand that is too strong for a weak two. However, this doesn't mean that I won't pass a hand that is stronger than another hand that I'd open a weak two. I would open2S on QJTxxx xx xxx xxx and pass xxxxxx Kxx Kx Kx. The latter hand isn't too strong for a weak two, it is too defensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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