Do you bid?

[bridgeboy]

You hold

 

KQ5

J

AJ32

AJ1098

 

Imps, All vul, last board of a close match

 

it goes

 

Pass Pass 4H ?

 

Your bid?

 

I should add that you play takeout doubles up to 4H so p will not be expecting great trumps ;)

 

Thanks all in advance

[flytoox]

Very tough, but I will dbl. LHO passed 1st round, this makes my dbl slightly safer. On the other hand, pd passed as well. He didnt preempt. So at most he has 5 card spade, or even less. His shape wont be too good. So he is more likely to pass rather than bid. This suits you well, as you have good def. cards. Even if he bids 4S, you can make it if pd has spade ace and one of club high card.

[pclayton]

No problem with double, but obviously I'd like a 4th spade. If 4♥ and 4♠ both down 1, I might lose 5 IMPs. I expect a lot of working cards in pard's hand due to RHO's vul preempt.

[helium]

pass:)

[pbleighton]

Playing with a "sound" bidder, I might double - a tough call.

 

Playing with my regular pd, I pass - if he had 5 spades and a decent 10 hcp he would have opened.

 

Peter

[HeartA]

Indeed tough decision. But I voted for double.

[inquiry]

You got to double or they steal you blind. How else you going to kept them honest. (yes double is takeout)

 

Ben

[whereagles]

Since pard passed, I think it's hard for us to make a game and therefore I pass. If pard hadn't passed yet, I'd have to double.

[Flame]

I double

At imps you got to try for the big money.

At mp i would have doubled for different ressons.

[Fluffy]

Iam with the majority, its a cclear tae out double to me.

[the hog]

Opposite an unpassed hand I x in my sleep.

Opposite a passed hand and with the vul this is a MUCH more difficult situation. I pass for a number of reasons:

 

The 4H bid will be a serious bid at this vul, particularly given the fact that the 4H bidder's pd is also a passed hand.

 

In 4S I will be forced to ruff with good trumps. Given that pd is a passed hand he may not have a great S suit, thus causing him to lose control. (With 1 more S and 1 less m suit card, I X).

 

3N may have been a playable contract, but that is now gone, and 5m is a looooong way off.

[mr1303]

Every time I double with this hand I find my partner with a flat 4 count who decides to leave it in, and it makes when the 4H opener has something like a 15-16 count and a decent heart suit who decides that slam is unlikely when partner can't open. And I usually get a complete bottom defending 4H doubled conceding an overtrick.

 

I fancy I won't miss much if I pass, so that's what I'll do.

[Guest Jlall]

whats the problem?... good hand, short hearts, support for unbid suits, reasonable defense if it goes float. i dont get it

[mikestar]

To me, double is clear cut unless we are playing a very light opening system (if partner would have opened a mediocre 9 count with five poor spades, pass is more attractive.)

 

The double should be fine if partner leaves it in--he'll either have some cards or some hearts or both. The fear is if he bids 4S on four bad spades and a weak hand. In that case we get a crappy result. Oh, well it won't be our first or our last, that's why people prempt.

 

Double is correct but scary, but give me a fourth spade and it's comfortable as well as correct.

[junyi_zhu]

whats the problem?... good hand, short hearts, support for unbid suits, reasonable defense if it goes float. i dont get it

This one isn't very simple, suppose partner has a very useful 7 points,

Axxxx xxx Kx xxx, do I really want to play 4S here? Perhaps no, because I may face

a serious trump upper cut problem, if I pass, we probably defeat the contract

by 1 trick. However, if you change partner's hand to SAJTxx Hxxx DKx Cxxx, I am sure

I want to be in 4S, is that asking too much from partner? Probably. So I'd say it's not an easy hand.

[Free]

Dbl, is there any other choice?? ;) :P

[mcphee]

While you would like to have a bit more you simply can't not take action. I think dble is the only sensible bid. Even though partner has passed does not rule out this hand could make game, some days a slam. Partner is not forced to bid over dble and if they do how bad will it be?

[cf_John0]

Typical dbl!then it's decided by my pd.

[joker_gib]

dbl too !

 

What's happening ?

[PriorKnowledge]

Dbl. I understand passers thinking, but if partner has as little as S-Axxxx and a minor King, we have a good chance for game and may set 4H only 1 trick.

 

Note: All high level dbls are offensive. If you have a trump stack, you'll have to play it undbled. If your partner passes with a mediocre hand and no defense, then your partner needs a talking to.

[bridgeboy]

Thanks to all who voted. I think the poll is overwhelming towards a doubled.

 

Just for interest, Dbl was not a success at the table but who cares... :)

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Thanks all again!

[inquiry]

Thanks to all who voted. I think the poll is overwhelming towards a doubled.

 

Just for interest, Dbl was not a success at the table but who cares... :)

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Thanks all again!

It is not entirely clear that double was a failure. EW can make 4H for +620 without the double. In 4♠X (assuming EAST leaves it in), you might lose just 2H, 2S, and 1D for down two or -500 (don't show spade T or 9).

 

Noth will not leave a takeout double in with his hand. But it doesn't matter what the result is on any one hand (unless it is for world championship i guess)... the questin is waht is the right bid.. and double is right. Revere Norht and West hand.. .where do you want to be? They lose 1C, 1D, and 1S to make 4he, and you might lose 1C, 1D, and 1H to make 4S. What a total disaster pass would be then.. -620 when you could make 620, that is 1240 swing. Even if you go down three in 3Sx here, that is only 180 point swing (-800 versus -620).

 

Ben

[junyi_zhu]