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It invites and I show a 17 18 and it can pass?

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In GIB's mind, it needs 29 for a minor suit game (logically need more to make 11 tricks than 10 tricks, this is std). It has 10, It thinks 4d is limited and NF, and not enough for game (with enough for game bid 5d), so it passes. 10+ "17-18" = 27-28, not 29.

 

Now, arguably on this auction, GIB should be introduced to the concept of "no invites over an invite", since 3d was invitational, then 4d by South should be forcing and unlimited. But you could argue the other way, one could argue that 3d still has a bit of a range, and it is usually aiming toward 3nt not 5d, and since that you have the room opener should be able to ask if responder is min or max to try 5.

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