Surprising Stayman Sequence

[Bbradley62]

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[Bbradley62]

Here, I think GIB should bid Stayman, and be content to rebid 2NT if my response isn't 2♥. [hv=lin=pn|bbradley62,~~M37366,~~M37364,~~M37365|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S4AH79QKD3TJAC48K%2CS379TH456AD58QC69%2CS6KH23TJD24KC35TJ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%204%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7Cnotrump%20opener.%20Could%20have%205M.%20--%202-5%20C%3B%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CC5%7C]360|270[/hv]

[BunnyGo]

I think passing on the second one is fine. But there was just a thread about a hand similar to this.

[mgoetze]

Heh, first one is a perfectly good 1NT opener. ;)

[Bbradley62]

Another non-Stayman.

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[Stephen Tu]

Don't see what you are complaining about? It's routine not to invite on blah balanced 8 counts. The first one had a 5 cd suit, honors in long suits, worth more, but 2d rated to be a reasonable partial when you didn't have spades.