Gerben47 Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=saq5hdt763ca87432]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] This always happens at unfavorable of course. 3♦ pass pass doublepass ? Now what? 3♦ is middle-of-the-road type preempt, 1st favorable so 7-card suit or very good 6-card suit (KQJxxx or better). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Very difficult decision. Looking at my hand I guess pard has a 4513 or 4612. We might make 5C, but it doesn't rate to be ice-cold. Heck, I'm going to pass here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=saq5hdt763ca87432]133|100|Scoring: IMP[/hv] This always happens at unfavorable of course. 3♦ pass pass doublepass ? Now what? 3♦ is middle-of-the-road type preempt, 1st favorable so 7-card suit or very good 6-card suit (KQJxxx or better). Weird hand... Particularly given my heart void. I'm bidding a quiet 3♠, this has the advantage of keeping things low and not bypassing 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Clear 3♠ imo, 5♣ is probably too high, but it might as well be 6♣ laydown :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I vote for 5c. pd doesnt have 55 majors, he is short in d, so he rates to have somoe clubs. I dont want to play possible 43 fit 3s or 4s, cos the hand with long spade have to ruff diamond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Yuck, double yuck. Partner might just be "protecting" because he is short in diamonds. We probably will set 3♦ one, maybe two tricks. On the other hand, I have a great offensive hand. The best spot might be 4♠, 5♣ or six of either black suit. In final analysis, because I can envision game if partner has as little as... Kxxxxxxxxxxxx (trump lead, lose diamond, trump, then heart, ruff, diamond ruff, heart ruff, heart ruff, run trumps, and squeeze WEST if he has 4♠ and 6♥ in a 4-6-1-2 hand (best defense is spade after second club). So while we rate to set 3♦ a trick or two, being vulnerable, and having at least reasonable chances for game on any hand where partner has 3 or more clubs and a balancing double, I will simply bid 5♣. Note, after five clubs, the auction isn't over. At matchpoints, I give would admire the the red-blooded (and blood chilling), 4♠ bid here. I wouldn't bid it, but I would admire it. If we were not vul, and at imps, I would pass 3♦x here. If we can make 5♣ we are should get this at least two, so how bad can that be (400 versus 300 to 500). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 Sorry but I just can't imagine passing 3D dbled when I may make 5-6 0r even 7C and bidding a 3 card suit when I have a 6 card suit , by choice no less, is something that could take place in a drunken stupor, maybe. The choices to me are4D intending to bid 5C over 4H seems the best solution.5C giving up on slam6C practical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 5♣. This hand looks oddly familiar to another poll we had here 3-4 months ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I bid 4 S:)))crazy as i am:) kenneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 think i'd bid 4d and take 4h out to 5c but willing to look a little deeper after 4s... so i voted 'other' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben47 Posted November 11, 2004 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I'll give partner's hand in hidden text now. Don't peek if you have not voted! KJ4AKJ62A83Q2 Now this is also not a clear decision and your options are:Double3H3NT Post mortem: I bid 5♣ and played it there. As diamonds are 6-0 I won in hand and tested the water with a small diamond from hand. After some thinking West produced a spade. The Ace won and I returned to hand with a heart ruff. I played a trump, ducked by LHO (Queen wins) and another trump on which RHO discards. As everything else was the way I needed it to be I still won the contract.In the end all was VERY well as 3NT failed at the other table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 I bid 4 S:)))crazy as i am:) kenneth I agree , you are crazy ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 think i'd bid 4d and take 4h out to 5c but willing to look a little deeper after 4s... so i voted 'other' That's what I would do as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jlall Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 4D seems clear. Much too good to bid 5C. give partner a normal 4414 shape and a normal lets see 12 count (3 level but passout seat). KxxxAQxxxKxxx is a slam. this is definitely an "average" hand and has half the values in hearts which is our void, and slam is STILL on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted November 11, 2004 Report Share Posted November 11, 2004 4D seems clear. Much too good to bid 5C. give partner a normal 4414 shape and a normal lets see 12 count (3 level but passout seat). KxxxAQxxxKxxx is a slam. this is definitely an "average" hand and has half the values in hearts which is our void, and slam is STILL on. J: I don't think you'll like ♦ lead, ♦, against 6 with this dummy but the point about making slam is valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 5C. Just saw pd's hand. He did not have a X. Surely pd had a 3N bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 5C. Just saw pd's hand. He did not have a X. Surely pd had a 3N bid. I can´t state it clearer :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf_John0 Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 pass xfer 2 penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 For all of the players who selected bidding some number of S I say this;there is a new and novel approach to this game entitled, bidding what you have. And now a suggestion to the S bidders: Do not pump your own gas, the fumes are destroying the grey cells ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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