Scoring North or South

[Vampyr]

This evening. I was playing North/South, so the opponents only used the Bridgemate during the arrow-switch. On the first board of the arrow-switch, the opponent entered the score and pushed the Bridgemate towards my (male) partner. I reached over and took it, and placed it facing away from me and verified the score.

 

On the second board, the opponent turned the Bridgemate towards my partner, but kept in the corner, where I could not easily reach it.

 

By the way, I was East, and if I am not mistaken the Bridgemate I's at this club still say "verified by East".

[CamHenry]

This evening. I was playing North/South, so the opponents only used the Bridgemate during the arrow-switch. On the first board of the arrow-switch, the opponent entered the score and pushed the Bridgemate towards my (male) partner. I reached over and took it, and placed it facing away from me and verified the score.

 

On the second board, the opponent turned the Bridgemate towards my partner, but kept in the corner, where I could not easily reach it.

 

By the way, I was East, and if I am not mistaken the Bridgemate I's at this club still say "verified by East".

 

That's a bit* out of order. My habit is to wave the Bridgemate around looking as vague as I can, until (a) the oppo underestimate me and throw tricks at me on the next board and (b) someone says "oh, I'll do it". With the more vague oppo, I say "Will you verify this for me please?"

 

* - well, more than.

[gnasher]

Last night I made a point of handing the BridgeMate to the female half of each mixed pair. One of the men reached across the table and grabbed the BridgeMate from in front of his partner. He did that again on the second board. On the other rounds, one or two of the women seemed sllightly surprised, but everyone else took it in their stride.

[barmar]

Last night I generally handed them to the West players (see my earlier post about handing it to the player close to where I keep the BridgeMate). Coincidentally, in all the male-female pairs, the women were all sitting West.

 

The only time East ever did the checking was in a pair consisting of a two male national champions -- the West player handed it to his partner to check.

[mgoetze]

This thread is really weird to me. In Germany, it is absolutely the default that North enters scores into the BridgeMate and East verifies them. It would never occur to me to hand the BridgeMate to the younger, older, more male or more female member of the opposing pair - I would always hand it to East.

[Zelandakh]

This thread is really weird to me. In Germany, it is absolutely the default that North enters scores into the BridgeMate and East verifies them. It would never occur to me to hand the BridgeMate to the younger, older, more male or more female member of the opposing pair - I would always hand it to East.

Playing in Germany, I (male, always sitting West) got the BridgeMate Saturday for one hand (out of 22) for the first time in months. My (female) partner always does the verification because the North's automatically hand her the console.

[Finch]

I'd never thought about this until reading this thread, so at the weekend we decided to pay attention. Unfortunately we were N/S throughout for all 3 days, so I couldn't experiment that much.

However, Jallerton was playing with a female partner and when they were sitting EW, he sat West, and he said that

 

- for the first 5 pr 6 rounds the BM was always given to him

- they then played a pair who knew his partner but not him, and it was given to her to check

- then they played a pair where the female North put it in front of the female East to check, only (immediately) to have the male South move it to ask the male west to check. This is quite funny.

 

Sitting North, when our side declared, I gave it to the nearest player to the BM to check i.e. initially East, as it tended to start sitting on my left. When they declared I gave it to declarer to check, which means that it sometimes changed to being on my right side. In the majority of cases the person I gave it to checked it, but maybe 20% of the time it was a mixed partnership the man insisted on checking. The man never gave it to the woman to check except for when we played Bluejak, who has also been reading this thread, and insisted his female partner should do it.

[Jeremy69A]

Extraordinary. Nearly 3 pages of obsessing about who gets to score/check and who might be offended if they don't get shown the BM and whether this constitutes an offence under some discrimination act. Perhaps we can add this to the prescribed table of penalties. 1vp(or 13.7% of a top) for showing the BM to a male, unasked, in a mixed partnership.

I nearly always score if I am North or South and usually ask who would like to check. I occasionally make an assumption if one member of the partnership is over 90(ageist,I know). :o

 

When Bridge Mates first started to be used there was a discussion about whether there should be something in English Bridge on how they worked and what the etiquette might be. There was also some discussion about putting in a photo and labelling the key parts. The person taking the minutes at this meeting was not a bridge player and gave all members of the committee strange looks. It became clear that there was a fundamental misunderstanding about what a bridge mate actually was and an erroneous conclusion had been reached by the minute taker! :D

[gnasher]

Extraordinary. Nearly 3 pages of obsessing about who gets to score/check

That's not true: we were obsessing about how other people obsess about this. None of us actually care (though I suspect that there are a number of TDs who would prefer me to stay away from the Bridgemate).

[aguahombre]

That's not true: we were obsessing about how other people obsess about this. None of us actually care (though I suspect that there are a number of TDs who would prefer me to stay away from the Bridgemate).

Is that discrimination against the handicapped?

[Vampyr]

None of us actually care

 

"Caring" might be putting too fine a point on it, but as a woman, you do notice things like this. Another example is always asking the male half of a mixed partnership what the auction meant.

[mycroft]

I do notice that while not all the people who "care" are female, all the people that state this "isn't important", "don't care",... are male.

 

"I have no idea what that means", said Tom, in privileged communication.

[Finch]

"Caring" might be putting too fine a point on it, but as a woman, you do notice things like this. Another example is always asking the male half of a mixed partnership what the auction meant.

 

I hadn't noticed anything like this (nor your other example) until seeing this thread.

Mind you, when I was at university it took my supervision partner (male) to point out to me that our supervisor (teacher) never asked me a question but only ever spoke to him.

I'm with gnasher: I really don't care. But I do find it somewhat amusing.

[barmar]

Over the weekend a couple I normally only see at NABCs was visiting town, and I was giving them a driving tour of my town. They saw a church with "All are welcome here" on its sign, and they (a gay couple) were impressed, while I'd never realized its significance until they remarked on it.

 

And now this has me wondering what happens at gay tournaments -- are scorers biased towards handing the BM to the "top"? :)

[bluejak]

The man never gave it to the woman to check except for when we played Bluejak, who has also been reading this thread, and insisted his female partner should do it.

Nothing to do with the thread, of course. My female partner likes to do the checking, so of course I see no reason why I should.

 

When I played against Frances but was North first I had to wrest the BM away from her :lol: to do the scoring and then I gave it to her to check - but with the obvious grin!