bluecalm Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 [hv=pc=n&w=shak7dqjt32cj7632&d=s&v=b&b=7&a=3hppdp]133|200[/hv] It's imps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Is 4NT pick-a-minor? If not, 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I´d go for the minors. LHO leading a spade against 3NT could be ugly, and 4NT has a bigger chance of being raised to a winning slam than 3NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I am close btn 3n and pass andchoose 3n primarily because itis difficult to see setting 3h more than 2 tricks and it iseasy to imagine 9 tricks in 3n.Spades could be problematic butunlikely to be a disaster with p behind any spade length. If p now bids 4s we can now bid 4nto warn them of the extreme shortnesswe have in spades. p will then be able to figure out we have the minors since we didn't sit for 3h x. it is possible 4n will still be our last playable game. Just too much of our value is in hearts toinsist on 5 of a minor. IMO 3n = 9 pass = 7insisting on a minor = 3. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 4N anytime. Anything else would be extremely strange. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Are there many hands which make 5 m but not 3 NT? May you construct some for me? I go for the most popular game with minors- 3 NT.With four points in my long suits, I do not fear to miss a slam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtewari Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 4NT is for minors but then is probably an underbid. 4H-4S-4NT should also be minors but slammish4H-4S-5C/D should be single minor slammish4H-4S-5H/5S should be spade slammish with heart control/looking for heart control Since it is reopening, partner may be a little shaded say 11+. So will evaluate the hands in the context and bid accordingly.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Are there many hands which make 5 m but not 3 NT? May you construct some for me? I go for the most popular game with minors- 3 NT.With four points in my long suits, I do not fear to miss a slam.xxxx, x, AKxxx, KQ10 would appear to make 5♦ (and 6 if no club ruff) but lose the first 7 in NT. Even Axxx, x, AKxx, KQxx seems to only have 8 top tricks in NT, yet makes a slam in either minor barring a ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 4 NT seems best to me trying for a minor game. Don't think we can beat 3 ♥ enough Dbld if preempter has made any kind of sane Vulnerable preempt. I'd expect something like QJ eighth or longer out of the preempter. If partner has long strong ♠, partner should have bid them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted May 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2012 Well, at least I was right about it being close according to the poll :)I passed, and it was worth +1400. Partner had:AKTx Tx AKx AK8x so even grand was making (it wasn't a good grand though) with 6C being a laydown. I polled some of my friends and most chooses 3NT. My partner agreed with a pass but wasn't sure about it.At other table the bidding went:2H pass pass 2NTpass 3NT pass... so it was 12 for our side but admittedly it was random bbo "expert" opposition so their actions don' mean anything ;)As to 4NT we agreed it should be minors after initial pass but it would be natural by unpassed hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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