No Platnick

[CSGibson]

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First of all, people ok with the first pass? 2♦ by an unpassed hand would be a one round force in our methods. Now what?

[JLOGIC]

Pass then 4D is fine

[Phil]

Yes, p / 4♦ looks right. Partner needs to have a really good hand to be coming in here.

[nige1]

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CSGibson asks "First of all, people ok with the first pass? 2♦ by an unpassed hand would be a one round force in our methods. Now what?"

 

 

IMO

- 1st round pass is fine.

- Now, 3♦ = 10, 4♦ = 9, 5♦ = 8, 4♣ = 7, 3♥ = 5, 4♥ = 4, 3♠ = 3.

I don't think partner is advertising a mountain. Sufficient would be e.g. ♠ AQxx ♥QJxxxx ♦ Kxx ♣ -

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[ahydra]

- Now, 3♦ = 10, 4♦ = 9, 5♦ = 8, 4♣ = 7, 3♥ = 5, 4♥ = 4, 3♠ = 3.

I don't think partner is advertising a mountain. Sufficient would be e.g. ♠ AQxx ♥QJxxxx ♦ Kxx ♣ -

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I think the opps would be a lot more excited if they had an 11-fit in clubs (unless they were split 7-4 or something with the 2C bidder having a mammoth hand). And I'd say that 3/10 for bidding your 3-card spade suit is rather generous :) [i might even award 3S negative points!]

 

I agree though that partner need not have an amazing hand. Say ♠AJxx ♥KQJxx ♦Kx ♣xx. We have some good cards but we've no fit for partner (most likely), two club losers (most likely) and only 6 HCP. So I'll go with 3D.

 

ahydra

[CSGibson]

I agree though that partner need not have an amazing hand. Say ♠AJxx ♥KQJxx ♦Kx ♣xx. We have some good cards but we've no fit for partner (most likely), two club losers (most likely) and only 6 HCP. So I'll go with 3D.

 

ahydra

 

I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that I have a good partner, not someone who would X on that dreck after I've failed to: 1) Raise to 2H, or 2) make a negative double.

[Bbradley62]

I'm still wondering about the thread title...

[benlessard]

I would bid 4C suggesting diamonds a doubleton H and maximum values for my pass. 4D would often show stiff H.

[CSGibson]

I'm still wondering about the thread title...

 

No Platnick = just Diamond(s)

[Bbradley62]

No Platnick = just Diamond(s)

<<down vote>>

[rmnka447]

Partner's double shows a good hand, 16-17+ -- might be shaded a little if distributional.

 

First round pass was fine. You are a touch too strong for a WJS in ♦s.

 

3 ♦ looks right at this point.

[chasetb]

First off, I like the title. Second, the hand isn't right for a WJS - I want a 7th diamond, especially at this vulnerability. So passing on the 1st round is what I'd do. Third, from what you've said 4♦ is the best call, but if you are 'out of luck' 3♦ might be a possibility. With anyone I've ever played with though, 3♦ would be the only call.