2H constructive

[kgr]

[hv=pc=n&s=saq8hk5d865ca7542&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1c(2+C)p1h(Transfer%20S)p1s(3cS%20forcing)p2h(constructive)p]133|200[/hv]Partner transfers to S and then bids 2H. This shows a hand with 5cS and 4cH and constructive. Your 1S was unlimited.

Partner could also have bid 2♦ artificial: 5cS and invite+. His 2H is almost and invite.

You have points in H and S, but only doubleton H and 3 small Diamonds. Is this enough to bid more then 2S?

[Fluffy]

a perfect minimum such as KJ9xx Axxx xx xx doesn't make game on a tump lead for lack of comunication, we can improve that minimum with club singleton but that might be too much. I think we should stay low this time.

 

If 2♥ could be a 5-5 8 count then perhaps we have more to worry about, but partner doesn't have to pass 2♠ with that.

[kenrexford]

But if partner has kxxxx-aqxx-xx-xx, you probably do have 10 tricks. Seems like time to try back 3s. Pard can pass that.

[kgr]

IMP's

[hv=pc=n&s=saq8hk5d865ca7542&n=skjt63hajt9dt93c9&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=p1c(2+C)p1h(transfer%20S)p1s(3cS%3B%20unlimited)p2h(4cH%3B%205cS%3B%20constructive)p2sppp]266|200[/hv]

Missed the vulnerable game.

[mike777]

[hv=pc=n&s=saq8hk5d865ca7542&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1c(2+C)p1h(Transfer%20S)p1s(3cS%20forcing)p2h(constructive)p]133|200[/hv]Partner transfers to S and then bids 2H. This shows a hand with 5cS and 4cH and constructive. Your 1S was unlimited.

Partner could also have bid 2♦ artificial: 5cS and invite+. His 2H is almost and invite.

You have points in H and S, but only doubleton H and 3 small Diamonds. Is this enough to bid more then 2S?

 

 

 

3s now.....Ihope that is inv.

[gszes]

no guarantees but it is difficult for your hand

to be much better than it is. Only thing that

would make it better is a heart fit also and I would

just plain bid 4h with that hand. This one is way better

that a normal minimum and deserves a 3s bid at worst.

[Zelandakh]

This ought to be a great hand for your system - you found the spade fit at the one level and this has improved the North hand enormously. If 2♥ is limited, which seems to be implied in your post, then North could perhaps continue with 3♦ over 2♠ to show a really good invite with club shortage. If that is not available then South has to make a stronger second rebid than 2♠ to show a hand just short of a game accept. You have so much space here, you simply have to define which player should be showing their extras. I would put this missed game primarily down to the players not fully understanding how the system being used works.

[kgr]

I would put this missed game primarily down to the players not fully understanding how the system being used works.

You are more right on this then you can ever think :)

We weren't sure what bid other then 2S by S, or bids after 2S by N would be. It is not defined in the system. (and in some bidding sequences were it is defined we play these 3-level bids as slam interest.)

...and what is worse ;) :

We both forgot that we changed our agreements:

2H showed: 4c♠ and 6+♦ and max limit strength.

[Zelandakh]

We both forgot that we changed our agreements:

2H showed: 4c♠ and 6+♦ and max limit strength.

Haha! Crazy! The first step is to get a decent system in place, only then can you really work out the boundaries on judgement calls. One of the things I (and my previous partner) found when switching from an Acol-based natural system to a relay-based strong club system was how different the judgement calls became. We had to get used to a completely different set of boundary conditions. That is not quite so extreme when switching from natural to transfers but nonetheless it is very important to have follow-ups defined when the resulting auctions differ significantly from those you are used to playing natural. Get the ranges in the later auction right here and I think you will find these kinds of hands trivial.

[Fluffy]

a perfect minimum such as KJ9xx Axxx xx xx doesn't make game on a tump lead for lack of comunication, we can improve that minimum with club singleton but that might be too much.

It wasn´t that much :)

[rmnka447]

You've got good cards to hold opposite partner's known suits. You also hold an outside A.

 

Vulnerable, at IMPs, it pays to bid any game that makes more than about 30% of the time. So this is a hand to make a try on.