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Another kickback question...

 

(P) 1 (1) 2

(4) ?

 

Is 4N a spade cue here and are we unable to ask for keycards?

 

 

I dont have a way to ask for keycards here.

 

Not sure what 4nt is but it is not rkc, I would take it as two places to play, undiscussed.

 

In any event dont pass 4nt :)

 

would take 5s as exclusion with d's as trumps.

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To the first question :

I play a kickback, and if I was in this situation and wanted to ace ask after partners 45xx shape shown by the 3 bid, I would have done so at that point. The fact that partner now appears to be 46xx is not going to launch me into slam mode. I don't read this as a slam suggestion. So 4NT is to play, and I am probably a sound 3154 with excellent minors. Not that I would bid 4NT even so, but that would be my interpretation.

 

I have no lupine agreements, and don't know how that would affect things.

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