wank Posted May 3, 2012 Report Share Posted May 3, 2012 i was trying to find this thread but couldn't. can someone more skilled direct me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Maybe easier for me to repeat the idea here. There are two different versions, depending on whether 1♥ is limited or not. In both cases after 1♥-1♠: 2♦ = artificial spade raise2♣, 2♥, 2♠ = natural1NT = includes all hands with diamonds, or 25332NT+ = precision-style rebids The benefits are that you gain a cheap 2♣ call when opener has ♥+♦, which is otherwise a very awkward sequence in standard bidding, and that you gain a second way to raise spades at the two-level (distinguishing good/bad raises or 3/4-card raises, your choice). The main losses are that you can no longer play in 1NT after 1♥-1♠-1NT, and that you are forced to raise spades on three-card support with some balanced hands. For the version where 1♥ is unlimited, we can also use 1NT as a form of Gazzilli, so that it captures all 17+ hcp hands as well as the hands with diamonds (or 2533). Responder's rebids are then: 2♣ = enough for game opposite the strong hand2♦/2♥/2♠ = less than 8 hcp, preferences opposite a presumed ♥+♦ two-suiterhigher = natural and GF (could instead use 2NT to show 4♠/6+m with GF balanced hands starting 2♣) After 1♥-1♠-1NT-2♣: 2♦ = 3+♦ and minimum; partner can pass or correct or invite just as he would over 1♥-1♠-2♦ natural auction.2♥ = GF, but not suited to a more descriptive rebid; typically 5♥/4m w/o spade fit, or 6♥ without a great suit, or balanced2♠ = 3+♠ and GF2N = 6♥/4m GF3m = 5/5 GF3♥ = GF very good 6+ heart suit3♠ = very strong 4522 hand (asks cues) After 1♥-1♠-1NT-2♦ thru 2♠: This sequence is NF even for a minimum strong hand (like 17-18), so pass is very possible. Otherwise:2♥ = 17-18 points without diamonds, quite NF2♠ = 17-18 points with 3♠, not forcingElse = mostly GF, although raising the suit partner just named at the two-level is just a strong invite When compared to "standard" Gazzilli, you gain the ability to play 2m in minimum opener's second suit, which is a big help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted May 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 lovely. ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 If you want the 1H-1S-1NT as a form of Gazilli (all strong hands), I've got a copy of TNS continuations. They take quite a bit of learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 and see page 142 of: http://www.bridgematters.com/etmgold.pdf for Bazzilli, the 1NT rebid showing 2M rebid, or ♦s and some extras, or most 17+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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