TWO4BRIDGE Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) EDIT: side question ...see post # 8 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2/1 system 1S - ( X ) - 4C = ?? Natural and weak, or splinter ? Edited May 2, 2012 by TWO4BRIDGE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I play it as fit showing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Splinter. I don't know anyone that plays it as weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Fitjump for me, 4 card support and very good side suit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Choose between a splinter (ITD) and fit-showing (jump in competition). Perhaps the choice of meaning might depend on whether the opponents are playing ELC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Choose between a splinter (ITD) and fit-showing (jump in competition). Perhaps the choice of meaning might depend on whether the opponents are playing ELC.Help me out on the shorthand: ITD = ? ELC = ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Sorry! ITD = ignore the double; ELC = equal level conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted May 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 Fitjump for me, 4 card support and very good side suit. For those who say a fit-showing-jump, what would a single-jump mean : 1S - ( X ) - 3C = ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 To me would be splinter. I like 3OM to be undefined splinter, and thus 4 level is void splinter, but absent that agreement, 4♣ is just a routine splinter. While I use a modified bergen wo competition, I prefer to use fit showing jumps to 3 minor. I can see pros and cons for splinter or fit-showing for 4♣, if your partnership feels that 3 level jumps are better used for other purposes. Thus I think the answer is: it means whatever you and partner agree, and that such agreement has to include a coherent 2 and 3 and 4 level structure. In a casual expert partnership, I would assume splinter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I normally play both 3♣ and 4♣ as fit jumps. 4♣ says that you want to bid to the four-level; 3♣ says that you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 I normally play both 3♣ and 4♣ as fit jumps. 4♣ says you want to pre-empt to the four level with a club suit on the side (you can double next round with extra offence). 3♣ either says you don't want to drive the 4-level or has sound limit raise values and will double/bid game next round to show defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 2, 2012 Report Share Posted May 2, 2012 On reflection, I think I play what Frances said. 4♣ will always be fairly distributional, so there must be some more balanced hands that bid 3♣ and then have another go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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