JLOGIC Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I basically never read bridgewinners unless bob hamman or joe are in the well, too much time on here lol. Sorry, I did not mean to imply that top 1,2, or 3 was worthless and top 6 was the only goal. I was talking more as a bridgecasualfan just watching and rooting for people to do stuff, you can root for many things to happen simultaneously which is probably quite enjoyable, especially towards the end (one of your teams looks like a lock as top 6? Alright, go for the GOLD. One team is running away with it? Alright, go for a medal. One of your teams is in 8th? Alright GO FOR THE TOP 6 ONE TIME!!!!!!! etc). This event seems like it would be less fun to play than something like the US team trials but more fun to watch (to me anyways). Dunno if that's true. ETA: And of course it is a great thing to win a medal for your country in a championship that consists of all the countries from your continent. I get that, even though we have nothing comparable here. Did not mean to denigrate that at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 You can also do secondary rooting because of the carryover. For example, if you wanted England to win, you would be hoping for Romania, France and Iceland to qualify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Preliminary scores assuming qualifiers are as after round 16: Monaco 19+14+16+25+16+17+24+25 = 19.50England 11+17+14+15+23+24+21 = 17.86Bulgaria 15+13+17+23+10+21+16+15 = 16.25Germany 13+9+20+15+12+19+16+23 = 15.88Ireland 25+9+11+14+11+25+15 = 15.71Italy 23+15+13+16+17+15+11 = 15.71Sweden 17+10+13+13+15+19+13+25 = 15.63Poland 0+16+14+23+23+10+25+13 = 15.50Russia 16+13+10+25+23+4+15 = 15.14Netherlands 14+20+7+14+10+21+19 = 15.00Israel 7+17+20+21+1+21+16 = 14.71Greece 19+14+15+0+24+7+15+22 = 14.50Switzerland 14+15+7+16+7+25+14+16 = 14.25Turkey 14+7+17+18+16+17+6 = 13.57France 6+6+25+9+5+16+22+20 = 13.63Romania 13+7+20+20+5+8+21 = 13.43Hungary 15+9+14+17+13+14+4+8 = 11.75Iceland 2+9+15+11+17+14+9+10 = 10.88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) I have it now as - Monaco 156England 143Italy 135Germany 134.5Russia 127Sweden, Israel 122Bulgaria 121Netherlands 117Norway 115.5Poland, Switzerland 114France 109Ireland 108Turkey, Greece 106Romania 103Iceland 87 Edited June 19, 2012 by MickyB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 My Euro 2012 prediction1 Spain2 Germany3 Portugal :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 That will not get you a lot of points (sorry Fluffy!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 franceeeeeeeeeeeee! boom, lets go. I fell asleep and didnt watch the last match :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 As we are at the halfway point of the Open and Senior series, and well through the Women, I have updated the scoring spreadsheet with the current positions to let you know where you stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Is the objection that men -> women and gentlemen -> ladies are the pairs that go together so they feel patronised by the combination of men/ladies ? That can't be it, as there are no EBL events solely for gentlemen/men/males/blokes. There is an Open event (open to all) so that would pair with Restricted or some similar word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 My favorite 3 teams now are England, France, and Wales. GOGOGOGOGOGOGO. As interesting as I find long knockout matches to play for psychological elements, I find this event pretty fascinating to watch the scores of, especially today with so much hinging for so many teams on who qualifies and who doesn't. Must be a really exciting/nervous day for everyone. Also you can root for multiple teams to do well since top 6 is the goal instead of top 1 which makes it fun on more levels. Yes, the format is fun for spectators, giving them reasons to root for lots of different teams. Unfortunately, the format is less fun for the players, particularly those who get on the wrong end of the random carry forward - or not - of particular scores from the first round robin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomi2 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 As we are at the halfway point of the Open and Senior series, and well through the Women, I have updated the scoring spreadsheet with the current positions to let you know where you stand. so, after winning last years BB prediction contest I am first again? goooo Monaco and stoooop the rest :) maybe I should become professional bridge bookmarker :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 so, after winning last years BB prediction contest I am first again? goooo Monaco and stoooop the rest :) maybe I should become professional bridge bookmarker :) My biggest regret from not winning the bermuda bowl, had I won I would have overtaken you in the prediction competition I think :( 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 That can't be it, as there are no EBL events solely for gentlemen/men/males/blokes. There is an Open event (open to all) so that would pair with Restricted or some similar word.Yes, but when you do see all male pairs/teams events (not in this case) it's always in my experience men not gentlemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 A number of women in Scotland, and perhaps from elsewhere, take great exception to the use of the term 'ladies' rather than 'women' in this context. So great that they have complained to the EBL about the championship website where the term has been used for the running scores. The EBL are apparently looking into the issue.They don't mind playing in an event whose very existence implies that they're inferior to the rest of the population, but they do care what it's called? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 They don't mind playing in an event whose very existence implies that they're inferior to the rest of the population, but they do care what it's called?As I said their event was inferior on my blog today I hope they agree, since they all read that if not this forum. However, as Andy knows but perhaps non-Brits do not, there is quite a difference between ladies and women. "Ladies who bridge" do so in the afternoon, on the patio drinking tea and eating fancy cakes and discussing the weather and their gardens. The only element of competition is in baking the cakes. Women take the game more seriously. In terms of the Scottish women, three have already played for the open team and a fourth has been close. But, as I've said previously, the experience of playing long championships, even in the Women Series, is valuable if you cannot make the open team. But, personally, I think it is an anachronism and should be abolished. PaulNPC, Scottish Women's team, Pau 2008 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Some weeks ago in the "German Bridge Trophy" we played the "Netherland women" and the "Belgian ladies". So, maybe they have another point of view on this subject. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 As I said their event was inferior on my blog today I hope they agree, since they all read that if not this forum. However, as Andy knows but perhaps non-Brits do not, there is quite a difference between ladies and women. "Ladies who bridge" do so in the afternoon, on the patio drinking tea and eating fancy cakes and discussing the weather and their gardens. The only element of competition is in baking the cakes. Women take the game more seriously. In terms of the Scottish women, three have already played for the open team and a fourth has been close. But, as I've said previously, the experience of playing long championships, even in the Women Series, is valuable if you cannot make the open team. But, personally, I think it is an anachronism and should be abolished. PaulNPC, Scottish Women's team, Pau 2008 Tell them to man up and stop acting like girls? Ok, bad joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Tell them to man up and stop acting like girls? Ok, bad joke.Next time we play you can have Sam at your table. She scares all of us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 20, 2012 Report Share Posted June 20, 2012 Does anybody know how many European teams qualify this time for the next BB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Does anybody know how many European teams qualify this time for the next BB? The top 6 team from the open qualify for the BB, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Does anybody know how many European teams qualify this time for the next BB?Top six in all three series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Tell them to man up and stop acting like girls? Ok, bad joke. No, not bad joke. Equality fine, but personally I am a bit fed up with women/ladies behaving like they have some sort of chip on their shoulder. They're inventing the need for political correctness where there was none. And yes I am a Brit - so Paul - so I know what you mean. I thought that sort of classist distinction went out long ago. I would have thought better of Scottish women. Nick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 I would have thought better of Scottish women.Just to be clear that, although it is Scottish women who are complaining, it is not the players who are in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Just to be clear that, although it is Scottish women who are complaining, it is not the players who are in the team.Perhaps all of them are ladies then! :P :ph34r: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted June 21, 2012 Report Share Posted June 21, 2012 Tell them to man up and stop acting like girls? Ok, bad joke.Were you trying to check whether negative votes are still disabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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