JLOGIC Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 France started very strongly, but despite fielding the "#1 PLAYER ON THE PLANET" in the last match today France seems to have lost it 25-5 to Wales. The adverse swings do not seem particularly unlucky either. Isn't that good for me? Don't results vs bottom teams get thrown out or lessened or something? Obv I had Wales as #2 anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 Only results from qualifying teams carry to the final rankings. Wales are currently 7th in the group, whether they qualify or not will have a big bearing on France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 14, 2012 Report Share Posted June 14, 2012 same thing happeend last time iirc in italys favor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 same thing happeend last time iirc in italys favorAnd coincidently Wales was one of the teams in the tie-break for the last qualifying place in the same group last time. With the same line up they will be looking to make the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 15, 2012 Report Share Posted June 15, 2012 (edited) Correction, Bakhshi is the best player of all time! Even better when I spell his name right! :P Edited June 15, 2012 by JLOGIC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbakhshi Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Correction, Bakhshi is the best player of all time! Even better when I spell his name right! :P Yay! - England v France this afternoon must be match of the millennium with the best player of all time potentially due to play against #1 PLAYER ON THE PLANET. And it'll be on vugraph so I won't feel compelled to F5 their score card every 30 seconds whilst kibtizing lesser known players like those guys who play for Monaco or Italy. ;) Thanks paulg for the bbo message yesterday. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 16, 2012 Report Share Posted June 16, 2012 Wow that's epic. But I'm scared of Wales now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Changed to danish women from german cuz jallerton had them. GOGOGOGOGO F U so far jallerton! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 O/U on fantoni nunes butler is like 2.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Also I seem to be the only one who put france in the top 6 in open. DO YOU GUYS KNOW WHO THOMAS BESSIS IS, #1 PLAYER ON THE PLANET?!O/U on fantoni nunes butler is like 2.00What's the o/u on Bessis-Bessis Butler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan2008 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 What's the o/u on Bessis-Bessis Butler? -0.43. It seems that T. Bessis plays better with Del Monte. But unfortunately they are not from the same country :(. Fantoni Nunes are incredibly hot. They are killing opps like what C. Ronaldo did against Netherlands. Monaco is on the way to win their first european champion. (Of course not the first time for players!! maybe first time for their boss lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Monaco is on the way to win their first european champion. Their results against the likely qualifying teams aren't that huge. They'd have been better off beating Wales 25-5 instead of 25-0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomi2 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Their results against the likely qualifying teams aren't that huge. They'd have been better off beating Wales 25-5 instead of 25-0!hmm, after leading 72-0 halway against Poland their plan seems to be to win every match 25-0 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aberlour10 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 hmm, after leading 72-0 halway against Poland their plan seems to be to win every match 25-0 :) Tja. No mercy , they finished 25-0. Poland demolished NED few hours before with 23-7 so the polish players had not a "black bad day" for sure....so Monaco showed probably an outstanding performance, once again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Changed to danish women from german cuz jallerton had them. GOGOGOGOGO F U so far jallerton! Sorry, Justin, but I have never claimed to be an expert in Ladies' Bridge! Anyway, you and I had the Danish Ladies in 6th place, so we only lose one point. I'm more concerned about some of my other predictions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I see that the Turkey Open team and the Turkey Ladies team are both doing well and yet not a single entry predicted either of these teams to be in the top six. On reflection it was possible to work out that this was a mistake. Anybody who logs on to BBO regularly should know that there are more Turkish experts than there are experts in the rest of the world put together! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Sorry, Justin, but I have never claimed to be an expert in Ladies' Bridge! Anywsy, you and I had the Danish Ladies in 6th place, so we only lose one point. I'm more concerned about some of my other predictions!A number of women in Scotland, and perhaps from elsewhere, take great exception to the use of the term 'ladies' rather than 'women' in this context. So great that they have complained to the EBL about the championship website where the term has been used for the running scores. The EBL are apparently looking into the issue. I know the Gold Cup final has been moved southwards, but a warm welcome to Scotland will still be extended by Scottish women if you refrain from using 'ladies' in future posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Huge swing on whether Ireland gets in or not, since Israel got 1 vs them. They currently stand 8th and have to play Hungary who is in 7th, and...Italy! Greece is in 9th, and they are a big swing for the field too. Sweden is actually not doing that great against qualifiers, but they have a 25 ball against greece. On top of that, greece gave turkey a 6 ball and italy an 11 (not horrible for italy, but still their worst result). Since greece has latvia and belgium left, two teams who are not doing well, they rate to make it. Group B is even more exciting, with 8th through 11th being within 4 VPs of eaach other! Needless to say France against Denmark will be a HUGE swing for qualifaction purposes. If France can do well there they are looking good as their other match is vs the last place team. Iceland has a bye which is good for them, but their other match will be against Russia who is in 3rd. Again, if they take care of business there they are in, but that's easier said than done. Denmark has the toughest of the 4 teams bunched towards the last qualifier, having to play Poland as well as France. And then there is Wales. Ah Wales, you fascinate me. You intrigue me. They have to play Switzerland also, who is only 9 ahead of 8th, if they crush them maybe they will knock them out. It would be fitting of Wales. Wales has some exciting implications. They got 0 against Monaco, so Monaco is rooting for them. They also got 25 against France, so if France and Wales BOTH make it thats bad for France. If France makes it theyre definitely rooting against Wales. Wales also got 25 against Romania who is going to qualify. I like your style Wales. They got 7 against Iceland, so if they Q they are rooting against Iceland pretty hard. As far as Monaco, they don't really care who Qs, unless switzerland can get knocked out. They got 24 25 25 25 against 8-11th, but only 16 against the swiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 The most awesome thing about Wales is that they lost to ALL of the bottom 3 teams in their groups. They are the opposite of fish killers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jallerton Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 A number of women in Scotland, and perhaps from elsewhere, take great exception to the use of the term 'ladies' rather than 'women' in this context. So great that they have complained to the EBL about the championship website where the term has been used for the running scores. The EBL are apparently looking into the issue. I know the Gold Cup final has been moved southwards, but a warm welcome to Scotland will still be extended by Scottish women if you refrain from using 'ladies' in future posts. Sorry, Paul, apparently it is impossible to avoid offending people whatever one says these days! I was taught that "lady" is a polite term so I am very surprised if any female adult objects to the word. Do you know if any of the people you refer to are planning to watch the tennis at Wimbledon next week? There is a popular competition called the Ladies' Singles. Will the Scots be supporting Andy Murray in the Gentlemen's Singles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Sorry, Paul, apparently it is impossible to avoid offending people whatever one says these days! I was taught that "lady" is a polite term so I am very surprised if any female adult objects to the word. Do you know if any of the people you refer to are planning to watch the tennis at Wimbledon next week? There is a popular competition called the Ladies' Singles. Will the Scots be supporting Andy Murray in the Gentlemen's Singles?Is the objection that men -> women and gentlemen -> ladies are the pairs that go together so they feel patronised by the combination of men/ladies ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Many years ago, when I was in the US Army, I heard a story about a big party on some Army base. It was open to all ranks. When the base Command Sergeant Major got there, with his wife, he found a sign in the lobby of the venue. It said "Officers and Ladies to the left, Enlisted Men and their wives to the right". The CSM told his wife to go back to the car. Then he went in and told every enlisted couple in the place to leave. Then he looked up the base Commanding General and told him what he did and why: the sign was an insult to the wives of enlisted men, since it implied they weren't ladies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 And then there is Wales. Ah Wales, you fascinate me. You intrigue me. They have to play Switzerland also, who is only 9 ahead of 8th, if they crush them maybe they will knock them out. It would be fitting of Wales. Wales has never made the second round-robin but lost out on 9th place last time in a three-way split tie. They will be keen to avoid such heartbreak this time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 My favorite 3 teams now are England, France, and Wales. GOGOGOGOGOGOGO. As interesting as I find long knockout matches to play for psychological elements, I find this event pretty fascinating to watch the scores of, especially today with so much hinging for so many teams on who qualifies and who doesn't. Must be a really exciting/nervous day for everyone. Also you can root for multiple teams to do well since top 6 is the goal instead of top 1 which makes it fun on more levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted June 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 My favorite 3 teams now are England, France, and Wales. GOGOGOGOGOGOGO. As interesting as I find long knockout matches to play for psychological elements, I find this event pretty fascinating to watch the scores of, especially today with so much hinging for so many teams on who qualifies and who doesn't. Must be a really exciting/nervous day for everyone. Also you can root for multiple teams to do well since top 6 is the goal instead of top 1 which makes it fun on more levels.As was said on bridgewinners, top six is A goal but it is a competition in its own right and being European Champions, or even medallist, is significant for many, especially if you've not achieved it before. It is not (just) a trial for the Bermuda Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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