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Competitive Bid


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I think 3 should be understood to be a competitive bid, not as strong as it is marked. There are plenty of other ways to invite game over the double.

 

Also, if 4 is intended as an acceptance of an invitation, shouldn't the point range exclude the minimum end of North's original 2 bid?

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I would expect 3 to follow THE LAW just showing 6 card suit nothing extra

dont quite think 3 should show so much 18hcp, when we have redouble and game suit

tries to show better hands....but when with GIB I guess do what GIB expects but I dont always

agree with its idiosyncracies

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  • 6 months later...

Very similar situation today:

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I think 3 should be understood to be a competitive bid, not as strong as it is marked.

 

Also, if 4 is intended as an acceptance of an invitation, shouldn't the point range exclude the minimum end of North's original 2 bid?

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