Strength Requirement for free bid

[fuburules3]

http://tinyurl.com/83kudtv

 

It seems that GIB has a fairly normal 2♥ bid, but instead makes a negative double. I think I have noticed in the past that GIB's free bids at 2 level are much stronger than I would play them. Does GIB play a free bid is game forcing?

 

It might be nice to know because it was a little unexpected that GIB had 5H here.

 

Of course, passing 2SX is the winning bid here, but I've become wary of defending low level doubled partials playing with GIB . . .

[AyunuS]

I think the free bids are only 1 round forcing but still it does not seem to bid anything that will lead to you getting stuck. Therefore, since it allows openings with only 11 HCP, it'd need 12+ HCP to make a free bid to still be safe at 2NT, which you may have to go to in the case of no fit, so I'd figure the free bid is probably 12+ HCP, 1 round forcing, which is stronger than I'd play you needed for them, too.

[georgi]

At the moment new suit by responder with higher rank then opened suit needs 14+TP, if lower rank needs 11+. But not seeded as direct GF, but likely is invite+ hand ( in higher rank suit case ).

 

So in the particular hand if these 5 cards were in ♣, GIB would bid 2♣.

 

Very likely these limitations would be considered in next update/s, allowing expected or usual overcalls to be done.

 

Still for the particular hand, if 2♥ was bidded and as can't be passed, then 3♥ as minimum final contract if South raises and North passes seems like -1 so not so unlucky by not bidding 2♥ from North.

[pigpenz]

i think you did fine on the hand

2♥call most likely would bring about 3♥

too bad west had Q♥ or you could have endplayed east for another trick

only thing better would have been +200 for 2♠x-1

[Bbradley62]

[hv=lin=pn|Bbradley62,~~M55921,~~M55919,~~M55920|st%7C%7Cmd%7C4S23KH3D48TJKC69JA%2CS4JH24569D9QC345Q%2CS789TH7TJQAD26AC2%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%202%7Csv%7Cn%7Cmb%7C1C%7Can%7CMinor%20suit%20opening%20--%203%2B%20C%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7C1D%7Can%7COne-level%20overcall%20--%205%2B%20D%3B%208-17%20HCP%3B%209-%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2C%7Can%7CGood%20support%20in%20D%20--%203%2B%20D%3B%2010%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2N%7Can%7CInvitational%20to%203NT%20game%20--%205%2B%20D%3B%2014-16%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4H%7Can%7C3%2B%20D%3B%205%2B%20H%3B%2012%2B%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C5D%7Can%7C]360|270[/hv]It certainly seems that North should bid 1♥ over 1♦. Please fix whatever priority scheme is necessary to make this happen, especially since GIB manages to bid 2[hearts} on this one: [hv=lin=pn|branca,~~M55903,~~M55901,~~M55902|st%7C%7Cmd%7C2S9AH2D2359JAC56JK%2CS26JQKH6D48KC39TQ%2CS378TH3489AD67QCA%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%204%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7C1S%7Can%7CMajor%20suit%20opening%20--%205%2B%20S%3B%2011-21%20HCP%3B%2012-22%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Can%7CForcing%20one%20notrump%20--%203-%20S%3B%206%2B%20HCP%3B%2012-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7C2D%7Can%7Crebiddable%20D%3B%2013-18%20total%20points%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Can%7C4-%20D%3B%205%2B%20H%3B%209-16%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2N%7Can%7CInvitational%20to%203NT%20game%20--%2015-17%20HCP%3B%20r%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Can%7C4-%20D%3B%205-6%20H%3B%205-%20S%3B%2010-15%20HCP%3B%2016-%20total%20points%20%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7C]360|270[/hv] Thanks!