perry93 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Hi, i use 5-card-major. I have 13 points with 4 diamonds and 4 hearts: not bad, i open 1♦.My partner bids 1NT, natural meaning (probably he has clubs?).I only have 1 club, but i'm not strong enough to say 2♥ (it would be a rever, 16/20 points)... what should i do? pass? Thank You and excuse me for my bad english :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 pass, when partner makes a non-forcing bid and it's impossible for you to make a game then stop now. A minority point is partner's 1NT over 1♦ usually implies some ♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 Welcome. You have no big upside on offence and when faced with a poor choice, go with the one that scores the highest, notrump here. On occasion if you pass smoothly an aggressive opponent will bid something and regret it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted April 28, 2012 Report Share Posted April 28, 2012 Pass. You're likely in the best spot, so there's no need to worry. Partner may be 3=3=3=4, or he may have long clubs. Either way, you can probably scramble 7 tricks at notrump, with no 8 card fit in a suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 30, 2012 Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Hi, i use 5-card-major. I have 13 points with 4 diamonds and 4 hearts: not bad, i open 1♦.My partner bids 1NT, natural meaning (probably he has clubs?).I only have 1 club, but i'm not strong enough to say 2♥ (it would be a rever, 16/20 points)... what should i do? pass? Thank You and excuse me for my bad english :)The 1NT reponse to your 1D opening showes - 6-9/(10) HCP but equally important denies - a 4 card major, other wiese partner would have bid it From this followes, you dont have a 8 card fit in the major. Hence pass, partner will have 7 cards in the minors, i.e. he will have length in clubs, and you dont want to play 3NT, you want toplay 1NT, i.e. the opponents are allowed to take 6 tricks. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perry93 Posted April 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2012 Thank you all for your precision for a stupid thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesh18 Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 I have a relating question so I'll post it here: Let's say West opens 1♣ (natural, sayc), North passes and East has: 2 HCP pts. and one club. 1) The sayc rule says I can propose a new suit or bid a negative 1NT with 6 or more points. So what do I do here? Will I pass, even though it is very likely that we won't be able to make those 7 tricks?2) Will the contract of 1♣ ultmately be the best option for west-east, considering the fact that in this situation, north-south do carry quite strong hands, so failing to make 1♣ by one undertrick scores better than having opponents bid their own play (maybe game)? Is thinking like this legitimate? That opponents are 'supposed' to bid a higher contract, and if they do not, it is just our advantage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 1) Yes, pass. You will find that the opponents loathe to let you play on the 1-level, so it is very likely the fourth seat will find some call over 1♣.2) Quite possible, and that's precisely the reason for my answer to (1). I can tell you against weak opponents I was sometimes left in 1♣ down a bunch when I was in a 3-1 fit. However, the result was rarely a bad one (and I learned to play 3-1 fits :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted May 4, 2012 Report Share Posted May 4, 2012 Welcome to the forums Perry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantumcat Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 The benefit of passing is that your partner now knows that you have 5 points or less. If you have a six-card suit, then if the opponents re-open the bidding, you can bid your suit at any level you like, without your partner doing anything silly. This is called limiting your hand. In general, when you have the opportunity to limit your hand, definitely do so. Means you can go crazy later without your partner thinking you have a strong hand and bidding too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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P_Marlowe Posted May 24, 2012 Report Share Posted May 24, 2012 I have a relating question so I'll post it here: Let's say West opens 1♣ (natural, sayc), North passes and East has: 2 HCP pts. and one club. 1) The sayc rule says I can propose a new suit or bid a negative 1NT with 6 or more points. So what do I do here? Will I pass, even though it is very likely that we won't be able to make those 7 tricks?2) Will the contract of 1♣ ultmately be the best option for west-east, considering the fact that in this situation, north-south do carry quite strong hands, so failing to make 1♣ by one undertrick scores better than having opponents bid their own play (maybe game)? Is thinking like this legitimate? That opponents are 'supposed' to bid a higher contract, and if they do not, it is just our advantage?Default would be - Pass. Even if 1C could only be a 3 carder, very often, it will be a 4 / 5 carder. If 1C gets passed out, you will be doing ok most of the time. If you have a long suit, e.g. a 6 carder, you can bid the suit, planning torepeat it.The other alternatives I wont mention, you can try to improve the contract,sometimes this works, sometimes not. If you pass in tempo, 4th seat may bid. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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