Hanoi5 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 [hv=pc=n&e=sak875hkqj92d4cj6&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=3d4h(Hearts%20and%20Spades)]133|200[/hv] Imp's. I thought it was clear, there'll be a follow-up, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 IMO Double = 10, Pass = 6. If LHO bids 5♣, perhaps partner can double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank0 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I double and double everything higher than 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Sorry, I don't believe in Santa Clause. And I am not helping keep the auction open via double, so they can fix what went wrong. The explanation seems silly even without looking at my hand, and I don't want to inquire further. I am sure enough about the above, that doubling would be a double shot ---hoping for the TD to roll things back when they get to their club fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Aguahombre, are you implying that double is unethical? I can't tell what you are trying to say, lol. Why would anyone think they will just obviously run to 5c? And even then, think that it would be really likely to make? It's not like we have no defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Aguahombre, are you implying that double is unethical? I can't tell what you are trying to say, lol. I think the idea is that we have very likely been given misinformation, and this fact should be clear enough to us that we will not get protection when it all ends in tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkham Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Was 4♥ alerted? It's shown in a yellow box in the auction, not sure what that implies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I think the idea is that we have very likely been given misinformation, and this fact should be clear enough to us that we will not get protection when it all ends in tears.What protection do you think you will get when the 4H bidder has QJxxxx, ATxxxx, -, A and you've failed to make the obvious double? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'd double even if 4♥ just showed hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I can't see anyone not doubling here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Was 4♥ alerted? It's shown in a yellow box in the auction, not sure what that implies.If you click on the yellow box, it'll tell you what the bid was alerted as showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted April 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 This was played with screens. North alerted her own bid to East. After East passed and the tray came back with: [hv=pc=n&w=s3hdajt932ct97432&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=3d4h(Not alerted to West)pp]133|200|[/hv] West is kind of a busy-buddy. So he bid 5♣... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Even if North is psyching the 4 ♥ bid, double is right because it tells partner about your hand. If North is trying for a rat tailed Double hand -- DBL Pass Pass 4 ♠ DBL Pass Pass 5 ♣ where ♣ is the real suit, you'll pass and partner will be able to judge better what to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkham Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 What was the actual reason the 4♥ was alerted? Could East have asked for an explanation if he wasn't sure about doubling? In the actual auction, I wonder if East doubling 4♥ would have stopped West bidding 5♣, or made it more likely! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 What protection do you think you will get when the 4H bidder has QJxxxx, ATxxxx, -, A and you've failed to make the obvious double? Dunno. I never said I agreed with aquahombre, but was explaining what I thought he meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm quitting bridge if can't make a penalty double of 4♥ with this hand. Even if they run to 5♣, partner probably has some of those, and how many tricks do you think they are taking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Lol Phil I was going to make almost the same comment. Anyone who doesn't double with this hand is playing the wrong game and probably should try chess or something. What are they worried about? That they will bid 5C with the double but not without it? That them in 5CX is worse for us than them in 4H undoubled? That either of the answers to those questions change by very much depending whether RHO has both majors or only hearts? I join the club of not having a clue what aguahombre is trying to say... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm quitting bridge if can't make a penalty double of 4♥ with this hand. Even if they run to 5♣, partner probably has some of those, and how many tricks do you think they are taking? me 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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