kgr Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 MP's[hv=pc=s&n=sj86ha3da7cakqj42&s=sak952h982dqjt3c5&d=s&v=b&b=13&a=2s(Muiderberg)p4n(RKC)p5h(2%20of%205%2C%20no%20SQ)p6sppp]266|200[/hv]LHO leads ♥6 (3th/5th): ♥6A52and you play ♠6 from dummy: ♠63A4How do you continue? If you play ♣ now then it goes:♣59AT (reverse count) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keledor Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I play the K♠ and if the Queen drops doubleton I play the Jack ♠. Id suit breaks 4-1 I'm down 2. If 3-2 with Q10x then I have only one loser. Assuming it doesnt I play the Clubs next discarding ♥. If the Clubs break 5-1 with the hand with a singleton ♣ holding the Q♠ down 1 any other break and the losing ♥/♦ are going on the Clubs and we have a loser on loser play on Q ♣ when which ever hand ruff withs the Q ♠. No doubt the wrong line :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 At the table I'm sure I just bang down ♠AK then start cashing clubs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I don't see any other play than ♠AK. If I wanted a safety play in spades I should have played clubs before spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikl_plkcc Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 (2 tricks)cash the ♠K (3 tricks)if the ♠Q goes down, bang down the ♠10 by playing the ♠J (4 tricks)then cash the ♣ (10 tricks)play the ♦A and eat the remaining (13 tricks taken) if the ♠Q does not go down, start cashing the ♣ and discard the ♥. After they use the ♠Q to ruff, if they lead a ♦, eat the ♦A immediately. However, if they lead a ♥, ruff it by south. The contract is set only when the ♠Q can be used before all ♥ of south are used up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted April 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 RHO had singleton ♣T and ♠Q73.The contract only makes if you run ♣ after only playing ♠A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 RHO had singleton ♣T and ♠Q73.The contract only makes if you run ♣ after only playing ♠A.Is that situation more likely than singleton club and xxx trumps the other side and also you're giving up some of the chance of 13 where clubs are 4-2 and Q♠ drops, and also what are you going to do if he ruffs the 2nd club with the 10. It may be successful, but is it best ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgr Posted April 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2012 Is that situation more likely than singleton club and xxx trumps the other side and also you're giving up some of the chance of 13 where clubs are 4-2 and Q♠ drops, and also what are you going to do if he ruffs the 2nd club with the 10. It may be successful, but is it best ?I analyzed this in Jack, after starting with ♥A, ♠ to A and ♣ to A:Expected score for playing:- ♣K: 766.8- ♠8: 533.8It is not clear for me where the difference is coming from.If ♠are 4-1 then West can go wrong by ruffing the 2nd Club low.Or if West has 4c♠ and 2c♣ he can go wrong by ruffing the 2nd Club.But I don't think this is a good explanation of the result of the analysis.....Probably this is another failure of the DD analysis:If West has ♠QTxx then you are down if you start with ♠AK.Therefor Jack prefers to start with ♣ because he knows DD that he will go down when starting with ♠AK and that he can make against that distribution when he does not start with ♠AK (can make if he finesses later in ♠). But when he has to play on spades later he will not finesse anyway and still go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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