mgoetze Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=skt7h9765dackt865&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=ppp1dp]133|200[/hv] gszes and I can't agree what to bid on this hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I agree with the one who bids his four-card major. The other is probably overthinking a very simple situation IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 1♥, if only because 1NT, 2♣ and 2NT are all horrible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 When I answer this kind of poll I always get surprised. Today I'm part of the majority so this must be easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I agree with gszes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasioc Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I have a major. I bid my major. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I think my second choice is 1♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I think showing clubs (1NT) is not a bad idea, but I would still bid 1♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 I agree with gszesI think my second choice is 1♠ 1s ackk who are these guys in my posse anyway:))))))))))))))))))))))))) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted April 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Hey mfa1010 you are supposed to be resting in order to win the next round in the Danish trials, not participating in BBF polls! :P Anyway guess I learned something here, thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 1♥ for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabooba Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 1♥ Why would you contemplate anything else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 [hv=pc=n&s=skt7h9765dackt865&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=ppp1dp]133|200| mgoetze writes "gszes and I can't agree what to bid on this hand." IMO 1♥ = 10, 1N = 9. 2♣ = 8. We've been brainwashed to bid lousy four card majors but I like 1N which could work out better.[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Simple bid 1 ♥. There's not enough points to bid 2 ♣ and reverse into ♥s. A very wise old player when asked about his secret to success at bridge said "I don't do anything that I can be criticized for in the post mortem." Sounds sort of corny, but it's actually great advice. In this hand, I don't want to have to explain to partner why we are not playing in our 4-4 fit when partner shows up with something like ♥ AKxx or ♥ AJ10x. If I bid something else, partner will probably never be able to figure out that I do indeed hold 4 ♥s. And if partner doesn't have ♥s, the ♥ bid just might inhibit a ♥ lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 anything other than 1H is retarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 I suspect the trouble is when partner is 4144, now when you bid 1H, partner bids a spade and you're bodog'd into 2S or 1NT, either way missing the superior club contract. well life sucks then you die, bid 1H. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 I had a similar hand recently although one of the clubs was a diamonds and the majors were reversed. Probably for the first time I hid the major. But we do always raise with three and playing 4-3 with that suit quality didn't look promising.Funnily the opponents interfered and we played in our 4-4 spade fit afterwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 1♥ Why would you contemplate anything else?Because if I don't bid 2♣ now partner will never be able to figure out my shape later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 If you could bid 1♦-2♣;2♦-2♥ non-forcing 2♥, that would be more descriptive, but nobody plays this as non-forcing. Even if you played it as a one-round force, it would be an overbid with a misfit, bad suits, and only a ten-count. But nowadays "everyone" plays this sequence as game-forcing, so 2♣ isn't even a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabooba Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Because if I don't bid 2♣ now partner will never be able to figure out my shape later. Does this mean that you play a system in which a subsequent 2♥ bid is non forcing? If so, then 2♣ is right for you. However if you play that 2♥ is forcing, then how will partner ever "be able to figure out my shape later"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_w Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 If you could bid 1♦-2♣;2♦-2♥ non-forcing 2♥, that would be more descriptive, but nobody plays this as non-forcing. Even if you played it as a one-round force, it would be an overbid with a misfit, bad suits, and only a ten-count. But nowadays "everyone" plays this sequence as game-forcing, so 2♣ isn't even a possibility. How do you play this sequence as GF? Did you notice that responder has passed in 2nd seat. They can't make a GF, in fact 2♥ is NF in much the same way as 1♥ is NF and ANYTHING a PH bids is NF (except I suppose a splinter) Does this mean that you play a system in which a subsequent 2♥ bid is non forcing? If so, then 2♣ is right for you. However if you play that 2♥ is forcing, then how will partner ever "be able to figure out my shape later"? Of course a subsequent 2♥ bid is NF. Did you also miss that the responder is a passed hand? I wonder if anyone's vote would change if they'd looked at the auction and seen that they are a passed hand. It's easy to know this at the table .... but when given a problem you have to look at the auction to know what you've already bid (I'm a 1♥ bidder regardless). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Yes, I do in fact play that all bids by a passed hand are non-forcing. Sue me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Did you notice that responder has passed in 2nd seat.No, I hadn''t noiced that. However, that just creates a different problem: partner may pass 2♣ when we belong in hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 The problem as I see it, is which of 2C to promise 10 points- hoping partner continues 2H if he has 4xH. Or 1H and hope partner gives me a chance to show my max-pass.If he's not trying game and quits after either 2C or 1H, I like 2C - hoping opponents reopen. No cheap 1S for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Because if I don't bid 2♣ now partner will never be able to figure out my shape later.- And if you belong in 1NT, which I would say is probably your most likely contract at this point, will it really matter that you showed your shape so well?- He might pass 2C when you belong in hearts.- Your comment could also be made if you had a 2 count. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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