fuburules3 Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 I *think* it is pretty standard to play that 3NT in this auction is a "bar" bid and opener is not allowed to bid again. http://tinyurl.com/72owzbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tu Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 [2h-p-3nt]Agree. Should not be allowed to simulate here, but should simulate over 2h-2nt-?-3nt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuburules3 Posted April 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 [2h-p-3nt]Agree. Should not be allowed to simulate here, but should simulate over 2h-2nt-?-3nt. I think so. Earlier today I read a thread on bridgewinners.com where Kit Woolsey said exactly this (which is good enough for me). As I was bidding the hand, I suspected it would be unlikely that GIB knows this (and would pass) . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted April 12, 2012 Report Share Posted April 12, 2012 Nice hand - does GIB find the right lead against 3NT? I expect not... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I generally don't like "3NT ends all auctions", but since GIB has these issues, how about adding a rule that 3NT ends all auctions unless GIB has at least 6 points more than the minimum he has shown, or 2 more cards more than he's shown in his longest suit? Note, I'm not saying GIB should always bid more if he meets this criteria, just that he should automatically pass if he doesn't, unless it was a constructive auctions like 1N-2H-2S-3N.{Edit: "unless..." added in a later post}Adding a rule along the lines of "3NT ends all auctions unless..." might be interesting.Not sure whether this was ever attempted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpenz Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 so where does the auction go......2♥3♦3♥3NT will it still simulate to bid 4♥ over 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgi Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 The 3NT for GIB has the meaning of captaining bid. GIB opener is not allowed to simulate, but to give book bid only. Maybe there is a hole which obstructs the gracious pass. Will be checked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 Nice hand - does GIB find the right lead against 3NT? I expect not...West leads a ♥, East switches to ♣Q, South covers, and then... West ducks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 West leads a ♥, East switches to ♣Q, South covers, and then... West ducks! LOL. So close!! GIB - always full of surprises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barmar Posted April 13, 2012 Report Share Posted April 13, 2012 I haven't looked at the sims, but my guess is it's trying to avoid blocking the suit, and hoping that declarer doesn't have 8 top tricks in the pointed suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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