lalldonn Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 Well it's true, if 2♠ doesn't really show spades, and 3♦ doesn't really show diamonds (both of which are probably true if 3♣ and 2NT aren't forcing) then 2♠ seems fine. I was thinking in terms of describing my hand, not letting partner describe his. I bid my longest suit, then my next longest suit, then I show my strength and partner can choose the right contract. However, describing my hand is apparantly impossible. I hope to never pick up xx xx xx AKQJxxx playing this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 On the topic of communicating, I thought Rainer meant he liked 2S by West (assuming East holds ♠ AJT) when he said 1♥-2♣2♠-3♠4NT-5♠5NT-6♠ (no ♣Q, no red suit king)Pass I like 2♠ (assuming East holds ♠AJT), but then I like creative thinkers at this game. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twoshy Posted April 14, 2012 Report Share Posted April 14, 2012 On the topic of communicating, I thought Rainer meant he liked 2S by West (assuming East holds ♠ AJT) when he said Na, Rainer's intended auction included the 2♥ rebid with 2♠ by responder. Just verify it based on who is asking for key cards ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Even though there is no reason to be so rude about it, he is right that there are a lot of players on BBO who can't bid. I even met one once who thought 1♣ p 1♥ p, 1♠ p 4♣ was natural! Not only natural, but setting the suit slammish. Yes I know many people who are fine players who play this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Hog, bro why do you insist on with this attitude ? You are calling the guy names and all. You said your opinion so did he, why do you have to be this way ? Bro, I mean you are a veteran poster in BBF by now and you should know better than this already imo. And you have double standarts too. You called names to Justin in the past (Jlackoflogic for example) but now you upvote and applause his posts. What is this guy supposed to do ? To win USA team trials or play in Bermuda Bowl to gain your respect ? Why can't you show him at least the minimum level of respect that everyone deserves ? If Justin or Fred or Gnasher said that they would bid 2♠ with this hand, you wouldn't tell them any of the things you did for this guy, would you ? Not only to him, but to those who agrees him too ! Moi upvote J Lall's posts? Never! Anyway, I don't think any of fred, Andy or Justin would lie about a hand. I also think their discussion would be reasoned, not along the lines of look at my wonder bid and how smart I am. Look at Rainer's, posts he is idiosyncratic. I am not being nasty here, you do know what this word means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Hog, bro why do you insist on with this attitude ? You are calling the guy names and all. You said your opinion so did he, why do you have to be this way ? Bro, I mean you are a veteran poster in BBF by now and you should know better than this already imo. And you have double standarts too. You called names to Justin in the past (Jlackoflogic for example) but now you upvote and applause his posts. What is this guy supposed to do ? To win USA team trials or play in Bermuda Bowl to gain your respect ? Why can't you show him at least the minimum level of respect that everyone deserves ? If Justin or Fred or Gnasher said that they would bid 2♠ with this hand, you wouldn't tell them any of the things you did for this guy, would you ? Not only to him, but to those who agrees him too ! Moi upvote J Lall's posts? Never! Anyway, I don't think any of fred, Andy or Justin would lie about a hand. I also think their discussion would be reasoned, not along the lines of look at my wonder bid and how smart I am. Look at Rainer's, posts he is idiosyncratic. I am not being nasty here, you do know what this word means? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabooba Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Not only natural, but setting the suit slammish. Yes I know many people who are fine players who play this. I play this and this is standard here. I assume you intend this as a splinter. As opener will often have values in the suit opened, this approach seems sub optimal to say the least. Anyway this is hijacking a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stansllee Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 What would i do as East? Pretend i had an overseas phone call and excuse myself from the table. What idiocy prompted my 2S bid? A telephone call, preferably from a nearby hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabooba Posted April 15, 2012 Report Share Posted April 15, 2012 Others also feel the 2S bid was a bad misbid, op. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stansllee Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Others also feel the 2S bid was a bad misbid, op. Obviously, in your world "bad" is also a "idiocy" synonyms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 I notice that you have still not answered my question about rebids, Stan. Is it because you can not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabooba Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Obviously, in your world "bad" is also a "idiocy" synonyms? Idiocy is a little strong. Had the expression "a beginner's bid" been used, this would have been more accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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