pooltuna Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 IMP pairsall redBBO tournament you hear the following auction (no comments on sanity) West North East South- - - 1SP 2H P 2NTP 4NT P 5DP 5NT P 6HP 6NT X PP P you hold3J64J83JT7632 what do you lead and why? 2012-04-02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masse24 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 It sure sounds like a bidding misunderstanding to me! :rolleyes: Attempts at a quantitative NT and opener responding as if it were Blackwood? Anyway, since partner doubled this freely bid slam, and without our side bidding, my lead is a ♥, which is what I assume the double to ask for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 H, because partner asks H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 dummies first bid suit, that would be hearts,if reading the auction correctly. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I am so happy, partner has relieved me of the burden of a difficult decision (or an outright guess). Small heart with a clear conscience. Regarding the auction, it looks like a very standard BBO auction of the "quantitative v. blackwood" type. This is so common that I am very reluctant to ever bid a quantitative 4NT with a pickup partner. Then again, perhaps the same could be said of slam doubles. :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I mean this auction asks for a heart lead for sure. But I would never lead a heart in a scratch partnership. If I trusted my partner you should probably lead aa heart, but this is just the kind of place where a random doubles because a normal spade lead is beating this.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I mean this auction asks for a heart lead for sure. But I would never lead a heart in a scratch partnership. If I trusted my partner you should probably lead aa heart, but this is just the kind of place where a random doubles because a normal spade lead is beating this....A normal spade lead? Don't you mean a normal club lead? By the way, I would lead the ♥J. If partner REALLY wants a heart lead, the J is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affe82 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Jack of hearts.Either pd has 2 aces in a mix up and if hearts lets it through pd should avoid dubbling.I'm rooting for k of h and an ace with pd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwar0123 Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 My partner wants a heart lead, I am going to show him the jack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 A normal spade lead? Don't you mean a normal club lead? By the way, I would lead the ♥J. If partner REALLY wants a heart lead, the J is best. Yes, sorry, I thought partner had opened 1S :) Now that partner has passed throughout Iam always leading a heart, as nothing seems any better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 a random doubles because a normal spade lead is beating this....This may be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I agree dummy's first bid suit.But keep my HJ - just may be a guard to let partner off the squeeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I agree dummy's first bid suit.But keep my HJ - just may be a guard to let partner off the squeeze.I was about to say the ♥J, but the idea of keeping a guard against a possible squeeze is intriguing. Oh, well! LHO bid hearts and I'm not going to get the lead again, so . . . caution to the wind: ♥J. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 But I would never lead a heart in a scratch partnership.This is an interesting coincidence: I was playing Monday evening with a semi-regular partner about whose experience I'm learning bit-by-bit. After this auction by the opponents: 1♣ - 1♥ - 1NT - 3NT I held ♥ A K J 6 2 and some other bits behind the incipient dummy, but didn't double because I wasn't sure that partner would have taken it as lead-directing. It turns out he would have, and the heart lead would have set 3NT; it made without the heart lead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 I guess leading the jack caters to the extra undertrick when partner holds AQT(x) or AKT(x). Partner might overtake anyway, just to be sure of setting it, but I guess there is nothing to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighLow21 Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Partner asked for dummy's first bid suit, hearts. I would lead the JH, personally, hoping to find partner with AQT or AKT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omarsh10 Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Partner doubles with an ace and a heart trick: ♥Kx or ♥Q10x or so ...Lead ♥J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 ♥J has the disadvantage that it leaves partner in sole control of the suit. On a bad day, they'll win the second heart with the ace, then cash five diamonds and three clubs, squeezing partner between his ♥KQ and his ♠QJ10. That's not very likely, but the scenarios where ♥J gains aren't that likely either, and the IMP effects are very different. If the field is in game, an the second undertrick gains us two IMPs and the third gains us one more. Letting the contract through costs 33. As for which suit to lead, why are we deciding what to lead against a doubled slam without finding out what the auction means? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted April 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 ♥J has the disadvantage that it leaves partner in sole control of the suit. On a bad day, they'll win the second heart with the ace, then cash five diamonds and three clubs, squeezing partner between his ♥KQ and his ♠QJ10. That's not very likely, but the scenarios where ♥J gains aren't that likely either, and the IMP effects are very different. If the field is in game, an the second undertrick gains us two IMPs and the third gains us one more. Letting the contract through costs 33. As for which suit to lead, why are we deciding what to lead against a doubled slam without finding out what the auction means? Standard Amer 1♠ beyond that as the eventual doubler I did not inquire deeply as I knew the auction was hosed by the opps which is more information than my partner had as my hand was AKT42T8529645 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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