benlessard Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 ATxxQKQxKQ9xx vul-NV(3C)--4H--(P)--? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 5C, over 5D I will bid 5NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcphee Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Ok, I'm a sucker and find 6H no doubt down 1 on an upper cut because the guy had 6 C. If I have missed 7 I am sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 ATxxQKQxKQ9xx vul-NV(3C)--4H--(P)--? if my hand wereATxx Q KQx xxxxx I would bid 5h and since my current hand is at best 1 trick stongerI see no reason to deviate from a 5h bid the heart Q should provide sufficient support to the 4h bidder and anytime p has decent power along with great hearts slam should be a favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 My partner's 4H denied 3XA, denied 2xA +C-void,denied 1 1-loser trump suit with 4+ controls.So any up-bid is dreaming. PASS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 My partner's 4H denied 3XA, denied 2xA +C-void,denied 1 1-loser trump suit with 4+ controls.So any up-bid is dreaming. PASS. Eh? Where did this come from? KxxAKJxxxxA(J)xx You would not bid 4H? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted March 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 My hand (south) was QXAKTxxx(x) editedATxx--- and decided to overbid 4H rather than a simple 3H because of the club void and because i wasnt sure how light my partner would be willing raise me to 4H vul vs NV. With my regular partner i would just bid 3H. Anyway north has to force to 6 (or keycards or make a try for 7) because over most slam tries all slam tries south will bail out to 5H feeling he already have overbid significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S2000magic Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 A good general rule when partner bids over a preempt is to assume that he's playing you for two tricks (or about 6 - 8 points); don't do anything unless you have considerably more than that. Here, you do: about 8 - 10 points (or 2 - 3 tricks) more than partner expects. I'd probably bid 6♥, though 5♣ is a reasonable bid as well. I want to be in 6♥ at least, with 6NT and 7♥ possible (though remote). Partner cannot have the ♣A unless LHO preempted on (6 or) 7 to the jack, so 7NT is out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcurt Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 My hand (south) was QXAKTxxxATxx--- and decided to overbid 4H rather than a simple 3H because of the club void and because i wasnt sure how light my partner would be willing raise me to 4H vul vs NV. With my regular partner i would just bid 3H. Anyway north has to force to 6 (or keycards or make a try for 7) because over most slam tries all slam tries south will bail out to 5H feeling he already have overbid significantly. 12 card hand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Eh? Where did this come from? KxxAKJxxxxA(J)xx You would not bid 4H? ***You do not have a stronger bid than 4H for this hand?A perfect SQJ +CKQ +Hxx is a cold slam. That's 8 hcp, how can partner even suggest good stuff when you may have so-o-o much?Where is the top for 4H for you? What other strong bid(s) are you not using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Good grief man, you are vulnerable vs nv. How will you feel if you double and pd bids 4S on a 4 carder? Happy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduran1216 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Assuming the original hand was 2740, this is completely acceptable for this auction/colors. What on earth would you bid with this hand if not 4H? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Good grief man, you are vulnerable vs nv. How will you feel if you double and pd bids 4S on a 4 carder? Happy? ***Again what is the top for 4H for you?What other strong bids are you not using?If your response is "only Double shows strong" then I see YOUR problem. That is NOT a problem to me - I have other strong bids.Good grief man, did you not read my post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Eh? Where did this come from? KxxAKJxxxxA(J)xx You would not bid 4H? ***You do not have a stronger bid than 4H for this hand?A perfect SQJ +CKQ +Hxx is a cold slam. That's 8 hcp, how can partner even suggest good stuff when you may have so-o-o much?Where is the top for 4H for you? What other strong bid(s) are you not using? No. This hand is not worth more than 4♥. It is a fine 4♥ call. 4♥ shows a very good hand. This is a very good hand. I don't even know why you think this hand is better than a 4♥ call. It is not even close to a 2♣ opening. I suppose if you added the ♣K and changed the ♠K to the ♠A then 4♥ would be an underbid. Still, I don't know if there is a reasonable alternative. Most players play that double followed by 4♥ doesn't show a stronger hand - rather, it shows a more flexible hand (say, one less heart and one more spade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboxley Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Is it bad form in the expert forum to ask for keycards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted April 6, 2012 Report Share Posted April 6, 2012 Is it bad form in the expert forum to ask for keycards? That would have been my choice, and if we were off 1 I would bid 6N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 That would have been my choice, and if we were off 1 I would bid 6N. At last some sanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Eh? Where did this come from? KxxAKJxxxxA(J)xx You would not bid 4H? ***You do not have a stronger bid than 4H for this hand?A perfect SQJ +CKQ +Hxx is a cold slam. That's 8 hcp, how can partner even suggest good stuff when you may have so-o-o much?Where is the top for 4H for you? What other strong bid(s) are you not using? All I can say is that if you want a stronger bid than 4H for this hand you have no idea of hand evaluation and even less of bidding over a pre empt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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